Is there a case for Dempsey beating Usyk?

If you think that he is rudimentary you are very wide of the mark.

 

Whilst I like Frazier's chances against Usyk, a fighter with similar intensity, but for me, much more skill, I don't think Dempsey can beat Usyk. He is wild, ferocious, but if I could sum up Usyk in one word it would be calm. Dempsey's ferocity would overwhelm many fighters but not Usyk. He would have an uncomfortable couple of rounds, download the data then box Jack's ears off. Tunney was a masterful boxer with an underrated and somewhat forgotten element of spite about him. I think Usyk is this but more so. It's strange because if I had to compare Usyk to one boxer through history it would be Tunney...He has Jack's number.

 

Of course there is a case for Dempsey beating Usyk.

Let's start with teh question of who you might expect to beat him?

Somebody much bigger perhaps?

That has been tried too many times to count on it.

Somebody smaller who could get in his personal space and smother/overwhelm his craft?

Might just be worth a try.

 

I think the thing that frustrates me the most out of the daily "Old heavyweight vs New Heavyweight" threads is that there is no arguments. It's just "This old heavyweight isn't as skilled as modern heavyweights." With no reasoning followed by someone else saying"If you think this old heavyweight isn't as skilled as modern heavyweights you're stupid!" with as much reasoning as the first individual

I would be interested in hearing what Dempsey is lacking in terms of skills followed by concrete examples of this (We have footage of him, this shouldn't be hard) and then that gets followed up by a classicist making some sort of counter argument as to why they don't see those as good examples.

If neither side is willing to do this then why are any of you bothering with this? Is calling people stupid on the internet really that much of a drug?

 

I might be misunderstanding but you seem to be implying that the reason they lost is due to their size not because of styles or quality. If I'm looking at who I would expect to beat Usyk or at least have the best odds, why should I not start by looking at Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos instead of going way further back in time and pick a guy who most likely wouldn't be fighting in the heavyweight division if he was around today?

I think the best pick to beating Usyk is someone who is an all time great who is of a similar size or bigger.