Tony Bellew vs David Allen HW primes

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Jul 5, 2025 at 4:07 PM.


Who wins?

  1. Bellew KO/TKO

    27.8%
  2. Bellew PTS

    38.9%
  3. Allen KO/TKO

    33.3%
  4. Allen PTS

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just home from a having a few and not sure why I'm replying to this but I'll say it. I'm not Bellews biggest fan by any means but even at Heavy, he will take out Dave Allen by 9 or 10 rounds. Bellew a light heavy really but his frame could stretch.
    Levels to this game
     
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  3. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Many will be blinkered by Bellew stopping Toe Haye twice - any decent fighter at Cruiser or above would have done the same to a man simply a shell since beating Chisora in 2012.

    Dave Allen is shyte but would give Bellew a far tougher test than the crippled old version of Toe Haye.

    A 50/50 fight for me.
     
  4. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bellew is levels above Allen. Allen is literally an Area to English level fighter.
     
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  5. SnoopyboyM

    SnoopyboyM Active Member Full Member

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    Bellew is levels above
     
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  6. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    I dont like Bellew but he is a far better fighter than Allen.Wins pretty conclusively
     
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  7. Coybig

    Coybig Active Member Full Member

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    Both stinking but Allen has a legit jaw, Bellend isn't putting a dent in him.

    Allen only needs to get lucky once.
     
  8. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes Haye was shot. However if his leg didn't capitulate during the first fight, he would have won I reckon. Certainly was ahead on the scorecards. His body was broken by then. Haye in his prime stops Bellew in 4 rounds or less with ease. I was no big fan of Haye either just to note.

    Anyway mate, back to the thread. Allen could make it competitive for a few rounds but he eats too many clean shots. Allen is domestic level really.
     
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  9. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bellew wins a decision in this, he is far more active and dynamic than Allen.

    Allen will be competitive in some of the rounds but will lose a decision.

    Bellew is levels above Allen.
     
  10. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bellew would win ever second of the fight resulting in a lop sided points win.
     
  11. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    Quite a tricky one.

    Bellew would box his head off but dave allen would be there for 12 rounds and he only has to tag him once. Bellew on points or allen with the KO

    It's a good fight actually who knows. I'll say allens size at his peak of fitness (lol) catches up with bellew late and stops him.
     
  12. themaster999

    themaster999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bellew v Cleverly 2, anyone dare to remember that classic? Even against David Toe 1 when Bellend had a sitting duck as a target for umpteen rounds and still struggled.

    Leave me alone Tone, is remembered by people through rose tinted glasses to the extreme.
     
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  13. Beale

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    The Adonis Stevenson fight is the one which convinces me that Bellew would not want to know should Allen land a decent blow.

    Every chance of that happening during 12 rounds as Bellew not exactly Floyd Mayweather.
     
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  14. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Allen isn't great but he's just so much bigger in terms of weight and he has a decent chin and a bit of pop. I can't see Bellew putting a real dent in him.
    Bellew should be able to box and land his punches - but as Beale says, Bellew isn't a defensive whizz. He was a solid boxer with a decent dig..Even then he wasn't a lethal puncher just slightly better than most. But Allen is 30 - 40 lbs heavier, maybe even as much as 50while being of similar height and reach. I don't think this is a foregone conclusion. Every chance Allen can just walk him down while taking Bellew's punches to land bigger ones of his own.
    Bellew had a well-managed career - he's not the 2nd coming of Ali.
     
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  15. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Dave, comes across as a really nice, genuine guy. But Bellew would have comprehensively beat him. Levels above.
     
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