Would anyone pick Wilder to beat Liston??

Careful, you don’t want to encourage a spate of “Wilder’s Momma” jokes……..

 

These mental gymnastics are amusing if nothing else.

He wasn't shot against Helenius. He showed the hand speed, power, and fast twitch fibers that he lacked against Tyrell whatever the **** it was, Zhang, and even Parker.

Helenius was the fifth ranked contender (WBC). Tyrell was a hand picked club fighter at the end of his career. Helenius was/is the much much better fighter.

As for your laughable excuse that "Helenius was even more shot lolz" Helenius was only stopped twice in his career. Tyrell 5 times. Not only was Helenius the better fighter but he also had far less wear and tear.

As for him getting absolutely murdered by Parker lol, you didn't watch a single round of that did you? Schooled yes, murder no. He took virtually no punishment for the most part and was merely outpointed.

 

Are you joking or is this really a legitimate argument? Helenius was 38 years old. He fought twice more against a random journeyman he beat and AJ who flatlined him. And Deontay literally KO'd him with a jab while backing up. Like what are you even talking about?

Losing 12-0 while getting walked back to the ropes and flailing around against combinations is very much getting murdered.

 

Helenius was at the second hottest point of his career. He wasn't shot.

 

What? You wouldn't pick Usyk over Braddock? Do you mean in terms of resume or h2h? Neither makes sense but I wanna make sure I understand what you're saying.

 

Braddocks last 5 fights>Usyks whole career.

 

Honestly this just seems like rage bait and that's not a part of this forum I engage with often so I'll just let you be. Have a good day!

 

You know whats rage bait. Putting someone in the HW GOAT conversation with wins over 5 opponents where they lost 25 rounds. Thats rage bait.