Shakur Stevenson is the best boxer in the world

We have weight divisions for a reason

'Weight divisions in boxing exist to create more fair and safer fights by ensuring that competitors are of similar size and weight. Without weight classes, larger, heavier fighters would have a significant advantage, leading to dangerous mismatches and potentially serious injuries.'


We have often have fights where one fighter is just much bigger and heavier than the other and often longer too. Whether it be 1, 2, 3 or even 4 divisions heavier with a much longer reach and it's not even a fair fight or close to being one

It makes a complete mockery of having weight divisions in the first place

Watch

Devin Haney at the weigh in for his 140 career 140 Rougarou who is a big 140 himself

The ''smaller'' career 135 pounder who is so amazing and fearless for ''daring to be great'' for moving up in weight to take on tackle these ''bigger'' men trying to unsettle the ''bigger'' career 140 Rougarou

''You're too small! You're too small! You're too small!''

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Watch a little longer they show him doing the same at weigh ins to his opponents at 135 too

Again, to career 140 pounder JCR

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To his next opponent, career 147 Norman in what will be Haney's debut at the full 147 limit

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Come fight night vs Rougarou Haney blew up from 140 to 165 just like he was doing at 135 vs all those 135 pounders and blown up 130 and 126 pounders some of whom actually moved up because they were ''daring to be great'' and unlike these weight bullies and massive weight bully multiple weight champions who were still way or much bigger than their opponents when they moved up 1 division, still much bigger when they moved up 2 divisions, bigger when they moved up 3 or even 4 divisions or roughly the same size as their opponents.

The only just started fighting opponents their size in their 3rd or 4th weight class. That's not ''daring to be great'' it's doing what you're supposed to do FFS

Fighters who are average sized for their 1st weight class with average, small or tiny reaches who when they move up in weight to their 2nd weight classes are small for that weight class and are fighting bigger or much bigger opponents with longer or much longer reaches. And when they move up to their 3rd weight class are tiny for it and are facing opponents who are much or way bigger than them with huge reach advantages, and if they move up even higher it gets even extreme.

These fighters are ''daring to be great'' and are not moving up because they are massive weight bullies who were massive for their 1st weight class and can no longer make weight anymore, moving up to their 3rd one because they were still huge for the 2nd weight and can no longer make that weight etc. and who in complete contrast to these multiple weight champs who were average sized for their 1st weight, small for their 2nd, or tiny for their 3rd etc. who actually are facing bigger, much or way bigger opponents when they move up in weight and are giving away big, huge or massive physical advantages that make is so much more difficult and risky to them to win and become multiple weight champions, they're facing opponents they're way, much, bigger than or roughly the same size and are not having to try and overcome big, huge or massive physical advantages


One of these is so obviously much more difficult, risky, and impressive to do so even if you are one of these people who don't believe in weight bullying you HAVE to acknowledge that and that they're doing two very different things and not treat it like it's the same thing which is what many of the ''weight bullying'' isn't a thing crowd do

But when Floyd was facing bigger or much bigger guys outside his natural weight class which, yes, he absolutely deserves extra credit for even though he did have a huge reach for his size which made it easier for him to do because his style hinged on distance control which he was a master of, his fans would constantly remind us that he wasn't a natural 147/154, was fighting outside his natural weight class ''daring to be great'' vs bigger or much bigger guys

But when it comes to certain other fighters the rules completely change. And I mean from those exact same fans

Zurdo blew up to 204lbs for one of his LHW fights

Benavidez weighed 189 for his LHW debut and 196 for his 2nd fight at the weight

Career LHW Bivol weighs 180-184 at LHW

I'm not even sure if Beterbiev who people accuse of being a weight bully even comes in at that high and certainly nowhere near 196


Career LHW Kovalev used to come in the mid 180s and came in as low as 181 and as high as 189 once IIRC


Benavidez moved up to fight opponents who are ''bigger'' than him who are not bigger than him or are smaller or much smaller than him and in his 2nd fight at the weight he weighed 196lbs which is much or way heavier than what the world champions or recent world champions weigh and is the 2nd highest fight night weight for a LHW I've ever heard of

So we have to stop playing this stupid little game where we pretend like massive weight bullies who move up in weight are ''daring to be great'' and are facing bigger or much bigger opponents when they move up in weight 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 divisions when they're much smaller than them, smaller or roughly the same size as them when said weight bullies move up far enough


These weight bullies weight bully because they want a big advantage just like fighters who stack the deck, are filthy dirty, refuse to travel, refuse to travel to their opponent's backyards, take PEDs etc.

Fighters who aren't weight bullies who move up in weight to challenge themselves vs bigger, much or way bigger opponents are ''daring to be great'' and who don't stack the deck, are road warriors who travel time and time again to their opponent's backyards/countries, fight clean, try to gain advantages be the fair or unfair at the negotiating table, don't joust PEDs in their asses deserve a lot more credit than the former but so many fans afford the same credit to both and often way less to the ones who are doing something which is way way more difficult, dangerous, impressive and honourable than the other

If everyone's a weight bully explain this?

When this photo was taken and when your boy Shakur called out Inoue and wanted him to move up in weight to fight him and was reluctant to travel to Japan to face him

135 << Loma and Shakur here
130
126
122
118 << Inoue here

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Yes, I believe Madrimov could've easily made 147. He said he could but he chose to fight at 154

Do you think someone who was walking around at 160-164, much less than Crawford was when Crawford hadn't even fought at 147 yet, at the time could make 147?

 

Me too. I probably no more about fight night weights than anyone on here. I've done a lot of research on that

No he isn't. Bigger, yes but not by that much and certainly nowhere near five divisions apart bigger. He looked a weight class or two bigger max and clearly tiny for 135

 

Usyk has weighed 215, 217, 221, 221, 221, 223 at HW


He weighed 226 in his last fight but, like Belly, he was fully clothed and he was also wearing his thick silver crucifix which was supposedly a inhaler according to some conspiracy theorist loons

He wasn't a weight bully because he's never been an actual weight bully.

He came in at 207lbs and 208lbs for his fights at CW which is a 200lb weight class not 195 where the weights were announced and he bulked up about 9-10lbs before settling at about 221 and slightly heavier for his last 2 fights. And obviously he's fighting giants who are much or way bigger than him and he feels he needs to be as big as he can be to absorb their power and deal with their size and strength.



He was generally fighting opponents roughly his size at CW and ones much or way bigger at HW, not weight bullying fighters much naturally smaller than him. No one on the P4P top 10 is giving away the kind of weight and other physical advantages he routinely is.


It's actually hard for him to maintain the weight at HW. He hates having to eat so much

'Undisputed heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk could return to the cruiserweight division after his rematch with Tyson Fury in December.


The 37-year-old will face Fury again on 21 December, but could then decide to drop down to cruiserweight again.

"I think maybe after the rematch, I am going to go down in weight to cruiserweight. I want more [fights at] cruiserweight"

"Maybe I can be undisputed for a second time in the cruiserweight division, it's my plan. When I start to prepare for my training camp [as a heavyweight], I have to eat all the time. For me it's hard, I don't like it."

 

No some fighters just don't feel like they need to have big advantages in their favour in order to win. Just like some don't feel the need to fight dirty, stack the deck, cheat etc.

 

Weight bullies boil their bodies down to campaign in divisions where they have a big or huge size advantage over smaller or much smaller opponents and then they blow way back up in weight after the weigh in and are much bigger, heavier and often longer than their opponents so you have 2 fighters in the ring are very different size which makes a complete mockery of having weight divisions in the first place

And they do this is because they want a big advantage

Usyk has never done this. He was rehydrating 7-8lbs at CW judging from the fight night weights which were announced and was generally fighting opponents his size, bigger, or smaller if they were tiny for the weight

And then he moved up to HW to face giants who are way bigger, heavier and more powerful than him who have massive advantages over him and he has to eat all the time to maintain the weight and spent at least six months training in the gym like a madman after moving up from CW to bulk up

 

This quote is from an interview is 2020

“To be honest, I could easily make 147lbs. I walk around at roughly 160-164lbs, so it would not be a difficult cut for me. Some welterweights like Errol Spence are bigger than me, even. But I did not want to compete there, because my priority is winning world titles and I knew that it would be very hard to get a title shot in the division. The way boxing politics is, the best at the weight would have avoided me.''


154lbs is much better for me - it is a very open division, the titles change hands a lot but there are many good fighters who I can beat to build my legacy. I want the biggest fights, and I will get them in this division. When some of the welterweights like Spence and Garcia move up as well, they will be more likely to face me if I am champion.”

-- Israel Madrimov

Read my post again. I never said it was cheating