Where do you rank Oleksandr Usyk as an ATG great heavyweight?

It would be hilarious if Holyfield nicknamed himself "Steroidfield" as a self-deprecating joke.

 

A coin toss for the 10th spot with Rocky Marciano.

 

Who are the two trolls who ranked him 16-20 ? And who's the wiseass who ranked him outside the top-100? Or was that a keystroke error?

 

Hard to say for me who is the best but Usyk is in my top 5 due to his style and personality. From prime Tyson and Lewis since now I didn't remember other HW so good and nice to watch...

 

Best cruiser of all time and imo top 3 heavy of all time.

 

Hot take is that he has to be taken seriously. Ask me again in 10 years.

 

Not trolls actual people who are aware of how many great fighters have fought in this division over the last 125 years.

 

For me, the only mark against Usyk is the fact that the man has only 24 fights as a pro whereas most others listed in the ATG conversation have twice as many bouts

 

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Lewis
4. Wlad
5. Tyson
6. Holmes
7. Marciano
8. Frazier
9. Holyfield (roids)
10. Usyk

 

Top 5, and at the top it’s really a toss up anyway. He’s a certified atg and the best of my lifetime imo

 

I mean, I love Foreman, but in his second career, he was significantly outboxed by Tommy Morrison, Alex Stewart, and Axel Shultz.

Nah, Usyk wins every round.

 

An ATG boxer for sure, for his entire boxing career. At HW it boils down to the same thing, how good do you rate Fury, Joshua and Dubois.

One good and two average boxers don't get you high on a list of ATGs at HW.

 

We should have a dislike button because you disagree with someone's opinion? Holyfield had a better run at cruiserweight, and his win against Tyson at HW is miles ahead of any Usyk win at HW. While it's pretty obvious Holyfield was juicing he never actually failed a test so if we start heading down that route we can point fingers at loads of different fighters.

 

No.

And the thread is specifically looking at HW.

He isn’t the GOAT HW based upon having beaten only 5 HW’s.

 

Great post, genius.

And when has Usyk fought a guy like Bowe 3 times??

When has he fought a guy like Lennox twice??

We have no idea if he could have beaten those guys.

And how many pro fights and total fights had Evander had at that stage??

Usyk is great. But he has fought lesser fighters. And he’s only fought 24 pro fights and 5 HW’s.

Do you know what’s a joke?

People using recency bias, without having the knowledge to apply any CONTEXT.