Who hit the hardest: Ali, Holmes, or Usyk?

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  1. BCS8

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    Fury never fought cruiserweights, genius.

    Oh wow, so weight suddenly matters now?

    <<< GGWP, exit left please.
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every factor matters genius
    So you don't consider 210 pound Cunningham to be a cruiserweight but a heavyweight ? Good to know, thanks for playing. Fury got slid 3 times by much smaller guys regardless, it can happen to anybody. Fury said it best
    https://talksport.com/boxing/438216/tyson-fury-toughest-fight-steve-cunningham-wladimir-klitschko/
     
  3. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Ali had good power, Usik has good power....Larry Holmes had very good power...Holmes.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Ali said he was really kind of upset when he realized how much damage he could do with just his right hand, when he first discovered at 11 or 12, how significant it was. And that's first hand testimony.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Ali
    Holmes
    Usyk

    They all have plenty of power when allied to their skill level and other assets.
     
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  6. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Active Member Full Member

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    Holmes is getting really underrated I feel, of the 3 he was the only guy that actually threw to put guys out.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's Holmes, he put lots of emphasis on his punches and his reach may have given his punches more whip than they already had. His punching mechanics had very good kinetic chain
     
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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Angry Larry…look out!
     
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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Lyle weighed 220 lbs (not 210 lbs) when he faced Foreman.

    Foreman was absolutely exhausted by round 12 vs Young - he was barely able to hold his feet without even being hit.

    The wasn’t a regular knock down in terms of Foreman actually being hurt.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    I addressed it ages ago.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/prime-george-foreman-vs-zhang.722259/page-5#post-22921356

    The Young KD has been brought up endlessly over the years as some sort of knock on Foreman's durability. You know instantly that person either DKSAB, hasn't seen the fight, or is pushing and agenda. It's bizarre.
     
  11. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    A guy who had fought Ali told me he was a good puncher. It was Ron Lyle.
     
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    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Anti-Foreman Brigade (Well - not so much a Brigade, more a struggling theater troupe, akin to 'Legs Akimbo') have their comfort 'GOTOs' - The Lyle and Young fights being the most popular of these - no matter the context.

    Their little troupe needs a new act.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
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    He had a very heavy right hand when he sat down on it. Ali could crack, no doubt about.
     
  15. AwardedSteak863

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    That heat and humidity in Puerto Rico that night was a huge factor. I would go as far to say that Foreman is one of the most durable heavyweights ever. He had a great chin and 90's Foreman was very good defensively as well.
     
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