Did Ali actually struggle with Mildenberger?

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  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah it was a weak era
     
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    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mildenberger drew with Folley and beat Zech, and he looked world class, he looks more skilled than someone like Kevin Lerena and Wallin
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Jul 22, 2025
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    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    It wasn’t a struggle - in relative terms, it simply wasn’t quite as easy as many of the other fights prime Ali had.

    New territory and Ali sorted it out in good time and would’ve been that much more effective next time around - as someone has already correctly pointed out.

    We get it though, it’s a thin platform for some eager beavers to extrapolate Usyk having advantage over Ali.

    Yes, exaggerate Ali’s difficulties while ignoring the learning process, reactionary adjustments and ultimately successful outcome while woefully underrating the opponent in question - that’s the perfect formula. :lol:
     
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  5. ThatOne

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    It helps to have a great right to whup a southpaw. That Clay fella seems to have had one
     
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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Yeah, it wasn’t too shabby, was it? I must watch more of his fights. :D
     
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    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    And yet way better than the era Usyk has dominated.
     
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  8. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    Imagine dominating your opponents so much and so badly that when one presents you a somewhat lil more tougher challenge people start saying you "struggled"
     
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    LOL no get real none of those guys from the 60s would even be in the top ten today.
     
    themaster458, Jul 22, 2025
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    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    lol. Liston alone would demolish most of the top 10 today.
     
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    Maybe in your fantasy were size doesn't matter and feints aren't real
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    He struggled in the way Mike Tyson struggled with James Smith....Mildenberger made him sweat...
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Southpaws will throw off a conventional fighters timing. Not many SP heavyweights. Ali was really good at adjusting on the fly.
     
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    I was at the Cooper fight Mildenberger was intentionally butting.Cooper was winning easily Mildenberger was not in the best of shape.
     
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    The Folley draw was controversial,as many decisions in Germany were.

    Mildenberger,like Cooper, was just short of true world class imo.
    He generally was beaten when he stepped up the quality of his opponents,and he struggled mightily with David Bailey a journeyman.
     
    mcvey, Jul 23, 2025
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