Who hit the hardest: Ali, Holmes, or Usyk?

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk doesn't load up on every shot, but he rocked 6"9 Fury, Joshua 6'6, all 250ish + took out Duboise 6'6 and Bellow - Usyk goes in the ring to box and stay ahead in his fights. In all fairness, with only 24 fights Usyk has been in with skilled giants - Holmes did not fight that quality of skilled big men-James Smith 6'5 14 fights? Ali? Ernie Terrel?

    I respect every era and the greats that came out of them, but every era has there share of greatness in different ways and Usyk with 24 fights has a rich amateur career and deep and rich as a pro, fighting and beating some excellent 200- fighters as well.

    I think the smaller faster paced men will be harder fights for Usyk.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    This is the entire reason there is a discussion right now. None of those three are regarded as big punchers. Who, therefore, is the biggest puncher OF THOSE THREE ? I pick Usyk ... but it does not mean he is some kind of Mike Tyson by any means.
     
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  4. themaster458

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    Yeah I think this is pretty clear. He gained a lot of muscle for his HW run especially between Chisora fight and the Joshua fight and looks to have got even more for the recent Dubois fight plus he sits down more on his punches now so don't see why its crazy to say he punches harder then he did at CW
     
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  6. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah 6'0 or so. AJ at 6'5.5/6'6 towers over him
     
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  7. SouthpawsRule

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    These fights show Ruiz at nothing less than 6'1 - 6'1.5 if those are indeed the height of Hammer and Lemos.
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is shorter than Lemos
     
  9. SouthpawsRule

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    He absolutely isn't, he only seems so because he crouches down more, rare times they stand straight or both crouch down Ruiz looks as tall or slightly taller. Hammer looks 0.5-1 inch taller at most.
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude no, this is Ruiz standing straight up next to "5'11" Jonte Willis.
    https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/429867
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/No_v1faZOTw/sddefault.jpg

    There is absolutely no way Ruiz is 6'2, and probably averages out at 6'0 throughout the day (at best)
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Opinion.
     
  12. SouthpawsRule

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  13. OddR

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    You can pretty much check any AJ Ruiz faceoff there are multiple the difference is pretty much 6 inches easily.
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

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    Willis crouches and bends more than Ruiz + Ruiz is bigger. When they faced off and both stood straight up at 6 minutes and 21 seconds they were the exact same height. Ruiz is 6'0 at best
     
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  15. Bokaj

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    "Giant" doesn't really capture it. Colossus, perhaps? He had a whopping 4 lbs on his opponents on average during his title fights in the 60's, after all.

    And Ruiz was all of half an inch tallar than Miildenberger and might have weighed several pounds more even without the lard.
     
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