H2H Usyk beats Wlad...but Vitali is a 50-50 fight

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    just because Vitali has such an awkward style
     
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  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Other way around. Wlad beats Usyk and Usyk Vitali is 50-50.
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I doubt he can beat either one at their respective primes.
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's the opposite Wladimir has a better chance vs Usyk due to his better technical skills and his very good record against southpaws. Not to mention Wladimir dealt with another smaller skillful defensive Heavyweight in Byrd very easily.

    After seeing Vitali get his jab totally neutralized by Byrd and the fact he couldn't make any impression on Byrd at all I don't see Vitali beating Usyk not at all.
     
  5. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk beats Vitali easier than he beats Wlad. Regardless though, he beats them both
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol
     
  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I favor Usyk 60/40 over them both. I can see the case why either brother could do better than the other... but I think they both lose.

    I do think Wlad will always be a bit more vulnerable though... Usyk can obviously crack hard enough to cause some chin issues for Wlad.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beats them both. They often found ways to lose.
     
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  9. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's so funny Wlad beat, actually dominated fast moving Heavyweights and defeated more southpaws than any heavyweight in history.
    Among southpaws he defeated: Tony Thompson 2x, Chris Byrd 2x, Ruslan Chagaev, and Sultan Ibrigamov. That's just during his title years.
    Then among fast moving Rangy fighters he defeated guys like Eddie Chambers, David Haye, Axl Schulz.
    Now take into account this - Wlad at age 39 and after 70 professional bouts lost to Fury (a peak best version of Fury) by a couple of punches each round. Then at 41 after a two year layoff and rusty he went life and death with a peak version for Joshua. Who also gave a very competitive fight to prime Usyk.
    I see no reason why Wlad style wise wouldn't be the favorite.
    Now Vitali with slower footwork and tough fight with Byrd gives me pause to pick him although his durabilty and range would pose big problems as well for Usyk;
     
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  10. kirk

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    This is good knowledge and good post, but even all that said I still dont think Wlad has the style advantage over Usyk.

    Usyk isnt like any of those fighters tho and none are even close... Wlad could be hesitant to throw when he didnt have a lock on his targets and Usyks movement I think would give Wlad major issues... add to that he has the power to genuinely hurt Wlad when he lands, and Wlad would have mental fits in this fight.

    Mix in Usyks feints, activity, mental pressure, stamina and will to win... its hard not seeing Wlad unravel down the stretch, at worst, or simply get outpunched and lose the ud, at best.

    Its all opinions tho... yours was a good post.
     
  11. MannyMMA

    MannyMMA Canelo fans are male swifties Full Member

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    38 year old Usyk would have destroyed 38 year old Lennox.

    Prime Vitali couldn't even do that.
     
  12. PrimoGT

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    Not very often. I think Wlad has 5 losses in a 21 year pro career. And 60 wins or something like that
    Vitali has 2 losses.
     
  13. BubblesUK

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    I think so, too...

    Vitali was decent, but clearly the lesser brother - Vitali wouldn't be able to knock him out and Usyk would win a clear UD, IMHO.

    Wlad would probably try to smother and clinch, but Usyk would be prepared for it as he was with Fury... From there, Usyk would inch ahead on the cards while Wlad adjusted, and I'm not sure he'd catch him - Wlad might've had the power to stop him, but I'm not sure he'd manage it.

    I think Usyk probably beats both, but Wlad would've run him close.
     
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  14. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol, Usyk schools Vitali.
     
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  15. Lonsdale81

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    Usyk is both better & greater than K2. He's a smaller man dominating bigger HWs.. & he doesn't lean all over his opponents either. He's never lost to someone like Chris Byrd or Lamon Brewster, he doesn't fight out of one country (Germany), he travels .. & nor does he pad the canvas. Every fight of his is a joy to watch whereas Vladimir stunk the joint out time & again. Vitali less so but his opposition was dire apart from Sanders early on. Vladimir had longevity but there was a lot of padding, Usyk doesn't pad ..or wrestle.. I remember a similar age Wlad versus B- level Jennings in the US & he looked tragic out of his German comfort zone.. it was a pitiful fight that he barely won. Vladimir looked great one minute (Pulev, Thompson, Haye ) & then awful the next (Jennings, Fury, Povetkin) .. Usyk can adapt to any style and still maintain the consistency in his performances.
     
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