Best jab per division

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  1. George Crowcroft

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    HW: Joe Louis
    CW: Oleksandr Usyk
    LHW: Michael Spinks
    SMW: Mikkel Kessler
    MW: Sumbu Kalambay
    JMW: Thomas Hearns
    WW: Ray Robinson
    LWW: Antonio Cervantes
    LW: Pernell Whitaker
    SFW: Vasyl Lomachenko
    FW: Vicente Saldivar
    SBW: Wilfredo Gomez
    BW: Fighting Harada
    SFW: Gilberto Roman
    FW: Miguel Canto
    JFW: Joey Olivero
    MW: Ricardo Lopez
     
  2. Mastrangelo

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    Pelenchin was not really a jab guy, despite his length. He moreso relied on those whipping power punches. Mathebula outjabbed him for most of their fight, from memory. I'd certainly put guys like Inoue, Morales, Barrera above him in that department.

    Didn't Junior Jones have a really good jab as well, by the way? It's been a while since I watched him fight.
     
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  3. AwardedSteak863

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    I like the Bob Foster mention. He is mostly remembered for his power but he had an excellent jab.
     
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  4. AwardedSteak863

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    Hw. Liston
    CW. Uysk
    LH. Hill
    SM. Kessler
    MW. GGG
    Jm. Winky
    Ww. Quartey (my personal pound for pound no.1 jab)
    Jw. Eddie Perkins
    Lw. Pernell
    Sfw. Lomo
    Fw. Arguello
    Bw. Harada
    Fw. Canto
    Mw. Lopez

    For the most part, I like guys that had a power jab. Liston, Winky and Ike really hurt folks with that punch.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah IMO Bob has a underrated jab on the whole. It was beastly.
     
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  6. Mike Cannon

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    Hi JT.
    You are not wrong, very underrated jab indeed, I was at the Foster /Finnegan fight, and you not only see the impact on Chris face but also hear the deep thump every time Fosters jab landed, in fact foster pretty much won the fight with his vaunted jab, of course he supplemented the jab with solid accurate right crosses, might well have been Bobs finest defense of the title, Finnegan put up stoic resistance, he was out gunned, out boxed, out thought, but still he advanced onto unrelenting punishment, I have been to dozens, if not hundreds of live fights, but few have moved me the way this fight did, if the fight was scored on bravery, Chris would have been a runaway winner, I had the dubious pleasure of talking to him many years later when the fights and drink had caught up with him, it wasn't a pleasant experience, he recalled that the Foster jab was harder than Conteh,s right cross, that's saying something, felt like a scaffold pole with a boxing glove on the end, not a true brit great, but a game and brave fighter, who properly overachieved, I was proud to have shared some time in his company.
    stay safe buddy, chat soon.
    Mike.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    I love your stories Mike, i almost feel like i am there. Fighting prime Foster would have been one of the more terrifying assignments in world sport. It was right after he looked like he had killed Mike Quarry, to boot. I believe it was Ring mags fight of the year.
     
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  8. Mike Cannon

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    Thanks JT, my pleasure.
    Mike.
     
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  9. surfinghb

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    The only Monzon , with Foster, and a double up on Hearns ... wins it for me .. Nice list JT
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Cheers surf!
     
  11. META5

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    Nice list JT, even if you have 'cheated' with a double Tommy.

    I concur with Pete at LW, the speed, versatility and rhythm of the jab was beautiful. He would lure people right into power shot, just cranking up the pace on the left.

    Why Ali over Holmes, Liston or Louis? Kudos to @George Crowcroft for the Louis mention. Absolute triphammer piston. Busted up Max Baer good with it. I, too, am an Ali jab guy but interested in your reasoning JT as I recall you being a Holmes' jab guy years back. Maybe I'm misremembering?
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    He was in contention for 160 too :lol:

    You might be misremembering. I've said a couple of times a fair way back i like the overall package with Ali, 60's Ali mainly. Guys like Norton (and not just him) have opined the Ali jab was better. In the 60's he was very mobile and could jab on the move while making himself extremely scarce. He could use it for attack, or defense, of course. How often did he get countered throwing a jab in the 60's?

    Holmes jab is great but he can be countered and i think a higher level of opponent might be able to take it away, somewhat, or hurt him. Guys like Ali and Louis were great with right hand counters. Liston's jabs certainly up there as is Louis' obviously. Ali had the fastest jab of all of them as well. Louis could be countered as well, less so post Schmeling but it was still there to an extent.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Here's a collection of quotes i chased up ages ago -

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/rate-listons-jab.713746/page-3#post-22640026
     
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  14. Gudetama

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    Some great lists here. Am I just being a casual by noting the lack of love for Ike Quartey (I see @Flo_Raden mentioned him)? Surely he should feature more?
     
  15. META5

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    For me, his jab to the body and the way he bladed in the 60s, so fluid and clean.

    Once that corkscrew jab started landing, it messed people up, consistent, speedy impact on the forehead, many eyes swelled up, many cuts opened up.

    The way he controlled ring centre and boxed against Liston - a mature, mature, very technically sound performance against an all-timer in such a massive fight for all the chips.
     
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