Will Usyk be memorable?

MaccaveliMacc · Jul 26, 2025

HellSpawn86 said: ↑

He is the best heavyweight since at least Lewis and even then that's a debatable scrap and who is greater.
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He's actually the best heavyweight since Wlad. Wlad still tops him when it comes to resume.

OddR · Jul 26, 2025

MorvidusStyle said: ↑

This is a matter of media control. The media creates these narratives of 'legendary' fighters and fights etc.
For example if you wanted to create that narrative with the first Fury fight you could in a documentary of movie, throw in the Ukraine war and whatever, spin things how you want. It was a good enough, dramatic enough fight to do that and actually a better fight than so many other 'classics' we've heard about.

As for a debate whether he is better than Lewis or not, I think Lewis being destroyed twice by mediocre fighters is enough to settle that one. And the idea Usyk wouldn't beat Tua, Older Tyson (even younger actually, but definitely older), Briggs, Golota and all these characters is pretty laughable. He also likely beats Vitali and Evan Fields.

Whether Lewis could beat Fury x 2, Joshua x 2, Dubious x2 ... does anyone really believe that's some certain outcome? I find it very hard to believe Mr Sleepy doesn't get wrecked by AJ/Dubious at least once and Fury would likely beat him at least once too. Lewis could actually go 0-6 there, though 2- 6 to 4-6 is maybe more likely. 6-0 is very hard to imagine though.
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Not sure about this.

Put to the test · Jul 26, 2025

that was the best hw championship ko in a long time

ChiefGego · Jul 26, 2025

gollumsluvslave said: ↑

Some points to consider IMO

+ 1st Undisputed heavyweight in 4 belt era, and 1st since Lennox Lewis - who is remembered for that alone, independent of anything else
+ Crusier Undisputed prior
+ Round 9 vs Tyson Fury was iconic and will be replayed many times
+ Highlight reel KO against Dubois to obliterate whatever controversy there was with the low-blow
+ His footage will be reviewed and studied by trainers and future generations for any number of reasons
+++ Elite footwork
+++ Elite traps & feints
+++ Keeping head off the line
+++ Lateral movement and IQ in response to whatever the opponent is doing
+++ Riding with punches and rarely being clipped clean
+++ Being able to 'think in the moment' very clearly in the rare moments when he is clipped clean and adapt, apply strategies
+++ Many techniques to defeat clinching inside, and get back to dictating his fight 'slippery as an eel'

Yeah, he will be memorable!
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+Olympic gold
+335-15 amateur record with all the amateur, european, international trophies

Shay Sonya · Jul 26, 2025

I doubt if he will be remembered by the average person the way Muhammad Ali, or even George Foreman or Mike Tyson, are. That is not a slam on Oleksandr Usyk. I see him as a great boxer and a good guy, in and out of the ring. Some boxers are remembered as much for things outside the ring as they are for inside the ring accomplishments. Oleksandr is not exactly flashy in either places.

All real boxing fans will remember Oleksandr Usyk decades from now. Quite a few casual boxing fans will, also. Some, who occasionally watch boxing, might ... it depends. His wins over Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury, alone, make him very memorable. I do know some non-boxing fans, who know who he is.

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