How much is Bowe's win over Holyfield worth in historical terms?

Nope. Holyfield was a 7-5 favorite.

 

They never learn. Courtesy of Chat GPT:


The first Holyfield-Tyson fight, which took place on November 9, 1996, saw Evander Holyfield as a significant underdog.



While the odds varied, Holyfield initially opened as high as a 25-1 underdog. However, due to a massive influx of bets on Holyfield, the odds dropped considerably by fight time, reportedly as low as 5-1 in favor of Tyson.



This fight became famous not only for Holyfield's upset victory but also for the "devastating" losses incurred by the bookmakers due to the surprising outcome.

 

No problem, you don't have to regret it. I'm interested in your criteria, nothing more. For some reason, Tyson's live victories, assessed in real time, gave him the No. 1 spot in the P4P rankings and two Boxer of the Year titles. Lewis, in the prime of his career, wasn't rated higher than No. 8 and was never Boxer of the Year. It's not absolute, it's not binding, it's not 1-0, but—I guess it still means something. Years later, we remember less and less about the circumstances and course of the fights, but we have a great view of the CV, which is always a distortion and revisionism because it doesn't take into account depth. That's all.

 

Back ii the future sports almanac, Doc, Quantum Leap and a few well-placed bets, I would've won off the Buster, Rahman over Lewis, Spinks with Ali, Ruiz over AJ - I'd be posting this right now with a diamond encrusted keyboard, waiting to place my next sporting bet .

 

I would argue Spinks and Tyson didn't beat the best versions of Holmes, nothing more and nothing less. Well, a little more. They were nice wins. I don't begrudge them that. I would put the Spinks win on par with Terry Norris beating Sugar Ray Leonard, given where both were in their careers. Tyson obliterated Holmes. That's more on par with Rocky's obliteration of Joe Louis, once again given where both were in their careers.

 

What led you to pick Spinks over Ali in the first fight? He was gone, but not that much gone. It was a shocker. Who did you pick in the rematch?

 

Ah,

During my childhood, Michael J Fox, was a hero with the laceless Nikes and the hovercraft. He went back to the future to change the events of the future using technology built by Doc Brown using a Delorean. There was a sports almanac from the future that had all the results of sporting events that could be used in the past to make a lot of money.

I wish I had it in real life.

In real life, Muhammad was retired by the time I was born. My pops was a soldier during the Biafra, boxed in the army and was an 'age-mate' of Ali. The first fighter I was raised on was Ali, the first fighter that I extensively studied was Ali.

The first fight that I got right was predicting Holyfield beating Tyson. When I met Lennox before he fought Tyson, I told him that he would win and I was right. I got the AJ and Ruiz horribly wrong but have been right on the Usyk fights since he stepped up.to HW.

I have a sneaky feeling that Bud will beat Canelo - I'm not a betting man but if I were, I would win more than I lose.

 

Of course, no one beat the best version of Holmes, but even beating the 1988 version of Holmes in the style Tyson did was impressive. It wasn't a competitive fight. Holmes had plenty of success after Tyson, Joe Louis—none. He didn't even fight anymore, despite needing to make money.

 

Well it depends, I've never rated Holyfield as high as some others due to the fact in his prime he fought 2 dinosaurs in Foreman and Holmes and they went the distance and were both competitive fights. Of course Evander hadn't reached the full implementation of his steroid regimen. Don't believe me , just look at the photos of Evander's physical transformation through those years, it's undeniable

 

• Initial Odds:
  Holyfield was the favorite with odds of 7-5, according to BoxRec.
• Shifting Odds:
  As the fight drew closer, the odds shifted slightly, with Bowe gaining more favor, according to The New York Times.

 

Quarry was a top 5 contender when he beat him in the rematch and Bugner a top 10. And he pressed Ali to the brink. Don't think Bowe ever beat a top 10 fighter besides Holy.

 

Different people have different criteria. I always look where the competitors were in their careers and the importance of the competition when they met. That applies to boxing, baseball, basketball, and football. Those are the sports I'm interested in. This might shock a lot of people, but i rate Ali's wins over Liston as his sixth and seventh best wins.

 

Louis beat guys as good and better then Young...