How do we rate McGuigan on here.

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  1. BadmanIsRobbin

    BadmanIsRobbin New Member Full Member

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    I'm 51 now, so when Barry beat Pedroza in the summer of 85 I was 11, I loved watching his fights, and was really gutted when he lsir to Steve Cruz and McDonnel.

    What's people's thoughts on hie career.
     
  2. PrimoGT

    PrimoGT Member Full Member

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    I'm the same age. He was a good 15 round fighter. Pedroza was a great performance. I don't think he would have beat Azumah Nelson, I don't think anyone would argue that he would. And his management probably figured similar.
    I don't think his heart was really in the comeback after the loss to Cruz.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m 51 as well. And McGuigan was awesome. Very exciting to watch but probably not in the upper tier of great feathers
     
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    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I roared him on when he was fighting Pedroza, what a great night for Ireland.

    The Cruz fight just seemed so... wrong.
    Wrong place, wrong time, wrong Opponent' .
     
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    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I'd love to have seen him again Nelson.
    He'd have maybe lost but given him a great fight.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Im 60 and followed him from his first televised fights here in the U.S. Read both books on him too.
    Very well schooled fighter. Long arms..good power and balance. I would dare to call him great. Short peak though. Was never the same after he lost his belt in that heat.
     
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    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm in my 50's to and remember that fight well. Barry was a very good fighter but I don't think he should be a hall of famer. With that said, the Pedroza win was certainly career defining. To me, his career was similar to Hatton's. Stylewise, they were certainly different but both of them had huge wins over long reigning champions that were at the end of their careers. Barry was never that good again.
     
  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Terrific little operator. Very fit and smart.
     
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    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Brilliant fighter albeit for a short time
     
  10. Fireman Fred

    Fireman Fred Active Member Full Member

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    Brilliant body puncher.

    His wins over Laporte (who would go on to lose very close fights with Chavez and Nelson) and Pedroza were top notch though Pedroza was not at his peak after 19 defences.

    Struggled post Pedroza.

    Was a unifying force during the Troubles, probably got him into the Hall of Fame. Cruz fight was heartbreaking and then the loss of his father basically finished him.

    Azumah Nelson was very hot and cold (Villasana I, Martinez I,Laporte and Fenech I though most of these fights were at super-feather) and usually at the level of his opponents.

    McGuigan would bring out the best out of him. Wouldn´t be surprised of another Cowdell performance though most likely Azumah would have start of slow, absorb Barry´s vaunted body attack and from the fifth round onwards take him apart à la Fenech II.

    Would be a classic.
     
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  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Certainly should’ve acclimatised to the Vegas outdoor heat (Cruz), that killed him
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I always liked him , found him courageous and charismatic .. he looked terrific defeating Pedroza .. the upset loss to Cruz seemed to take everything out of him .. a strange, fast drop but in many ways a blessing because he was going to get a big fight with a prime Nelson and that would not have gone well form Barry.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Just outside the top 20 at featherweight.
     
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