Would Usyk beat Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis if he "appeared" in the 90s?

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  1. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    Won everything in amateurs, olympics, semi-pros, cruiser undisputed, heavy undisputed, he should never be "absolutely not" tier, are you okay?
     
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    He never faced the kind of talent that's listed. So yes im doing great
     
  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Does this also apply to Tyson from the fights with Tillman, Stewart, and Ruddock (90s before prison, except Tokyo).
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    And all have a good chance of beating him. All 5 men are the best of the best in any era. As I said before, The chances of any one of those guys mentioned, Usyk included, going undefeated against the other 4, is highly doubtful.
     
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  5. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    If we are specifically talking about the 1990s here? And the fighter's best period in the 1990s?

    Mike Tyson in 1990/1991 if he turned up in shape like against Ruddock, I'd comfortably back Mike over Usyk. However Usyk would decision a 1996 post-prison Mike Tyson comfortably.

    Holyfield was in his prime in the early 1990s and I'd back Holyfield to get the close decision over Usyk. Not just skilled, he was quick, sneaky, powerful, and unbelievably tough and versatile.

    Also I back 1992/93 Bowe over Usyk as he was unbelievably skilled on the front-foot and as a pressure fighter who would attack Usyk upstairs and downstairs. Bowe was much better than Fury, AJ and Dubois.

    I think late 90s Lennox would get the close decision against Usyk - he was a lot better than Fury at using his physical strengths and his jab.
     
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  6. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk beats the absolute dogsh** out of Bowe and Lewis.

    Holyfield and Tyson actually stand a chance here. Usyk’s toughest fights were against fast and explosive counter-punchers that could match his footspeed and pressure him for the whole match, taking away his space to work. Both Holyfield and Tyson fit that definition, though Usyk is straight up a better boxer than both. Tyson I imagine would be easier to handle as he was one of the most inexperienced ATGs in his prime but Holyfield would actually give Usyk a hell of a night imo, I’d go with Usyk SD.
     
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  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk beats them all
     
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  8. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe is probably behind Fury in terms of career accomplishments. Who did he face close to Usyk in terms of movement and work rate? Usyk wouldn't stand toe to toe and brawl and seems better than Holyfield defensively.

    I assume we can use the cruiserweight version of Usyk for these fights since it's probably the better version
     
  9. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    He beats 90s Tyson in a competitive but clear 12 rounder. Bowe, the best Bowe? Bowe beats him. Think of those three rounds in Fury 1, but Bowe doesn't gas. Big, mobile man, more powerful than Fury, lands uppercuts all night, and I think he's a better inside fighter than most any other big man. Holyfield wins by decision. Those saying nobody has managed to pressure Usyk are right. But he's fought nobody of Holyfield's calibre. Holyfield is the only one of the four who can clearly out engine Usyk. This would be the fight of the bunch and the one where we really see what Usyk is worth. And I think Lewis might be the guy to stop Usyk. On his game he was an incredible fighter, heavy hands, mobile, great uppercut. The three guys I think beat him will all go to the body and are all accurate and efficient punchers in totally different ways.


    But...

    Who really knows? Usyk is an absolute master and might adapt for all of these guys, I dont know because I've only seen him lose a handful of rounds. Who knows what level he could go to when challenged by guys with these skill sets?
     
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  10. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, he'd win more routinely than people expect.

    He beats Lewis the easiest because Lewis can't take a shot and Usyk would hurt him easier and have a huge speed advantage. Lewis would look like a clumsy fool as Usyk ran rings around him and landed at will on this 'ATG' with no defence but size and reach.

    Then he beats Tyson next because Tyson is 5'10 and has not heart or engine, so once Usyk got through the early rounds he'd just grind down the hype-job ped-cheat criminal until the street scum quit or fell over and stayed there.

    Evan Fields would be a little trickier as he's around the same size and has more heart and engine than Tyson and more chin than Lewis. But ultimately Usyk is simply better. There's very little chance Evan Fields could go on the HW run Usyk just did.

    After that Usyk would want to be friends with them all like a weirdo.
     
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  11. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mike Tyson is the most over rated heavyweight ever
     
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  12. kdyehs

    kdyehs Active Member Full Member

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    Look carefully at how Usyk reacts to an opponent’s initiative: he's all crooked, defensive, and passive. Because he fights range-controlling fighters, these segments happen quickly and nothing really develops. His opponent never capitalizes or makes a second or third effort to get inside and work the body and head. Lol, Tyson would provide second and third efforts guaranteed.

    Usyk is very similar to Bivol—I see them as versions of each other: one a light heavyweight, the other a former cruiserweight now at heavyweight. I kind of respect both, but I think Bivol achieved more by beating Beterbiev once.

    We saw a 40-year-old Beterbiev beat Bivol once. I think that’s exactly the kind of situation Usyk would face against '90s fighters—only worse, because we're talking about their prime versions.
     
  13. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk beats holyfield in a close fight with a 116-112 type decision
    Usyk beats the 1995 Tyson by wide decision
    Usyk completely schools bowe and beats him by wide decision
    Usyk vs lewis will always be a 50-50 fight
     
  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He faced similar talent. Are you overrating the 90's again?
     
  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    hahaaahaha