Current Fighters Who Are Better Than Their Record Suggests?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by offshoot, Jul 31, 2025 at 5:43 AM.


  1. offshoot

    offshoot Member banned Full Member

    178
    244
    Jun 4, 2025
    Sergiy Derevyanchenko 16-6
    Dereck Chisora 36-13
    Maxi Hughes 29-7-2
    O'Shaquie Foster 23-3
    Botirzhon Akhmedov 10-4
    Conah Walker 16-3-1
    Ionut Baluta 17-6-1

    (and for a journeyman..)
    Kostiantyn Dovbyshchenko 10-18-1
     
  2. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

    11,882
    26,049
    Nov 4, 2017
    At least two of Derevyanchenko's earlier losses would have been wins with honest boxing judges, although he's faded now and clearly lost to Mbilli.

    He was robbed against Jacobs and Charlo.
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2025 at 8:57 AM
    pacas and offshoot like this.
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,817
    18,702
    Oct 4, 2016
    Old Giants coach Bill Parcell was told by an announcer that the team they were watching were better than their record and Parcells said, "No they're not, your record says how good you are" Chisora is Chisora , he's as good as his record says.
     
    pacas likes this.
  4. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,808
    3,809
    Mar 24, 2017
    I think a boxer with no loses can be more deceptive than the amount of loses. That list would be very long though.
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,747
    15,834
    Jan 13, 2021
    Charlo beat him up, that wasn't a robbery
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    92,879
    27,609
    Jan 18, 2010
  7. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

    217
    290
    Feb 20, 2025
    If ggg and loma (my nr. 1 choice here) weren't retired I would name them. Both with undeserved losses. You could even name usyk as compared to almost any other fighter he has a higher density of opponents of the highest level.

    Career overall right now Chisora is a great choice. Fought so many great opponents.
     
    JunlongXiFan and Jackstraw like this.
  8. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

    1,142
    1,675
    Dec 27, 2017
    These fights were close but not robberies.
     
    KO KIDD likes this.
  9. elgoadie

    elgoadie Active Member Full Member

    515
    163
    Sep 14, 2008
    I mean, yes... but also.... no.

    I see that argument both ways.

    In the sense that yes, a record is a record, 100%. Results are all that matter and a win is a win and a loss is a loss. The history books will have a win in the win column and a loss in the loss column. That's it... End of... Done... Dusted... The fat lady has spoken...

    But...

    No in the sense that, I don't think a record on it's own is the determining factor in "how good you are". There are so many nuances, circumstances, etc that factor into the equation.

    And if we take away the "almosts", the "did amazingly well but fell a bit short", the "if only this happened"s, then life would be boring. We'd all just browse on Boxerrec, see a fighter's record and gauge their worth/quality purely off of that. As with anything in life, there's always more to the story than that.

    TLDR; I see Parcell's point but don't completely agree with it.
     
    KO KIDD likes this.
  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,333
    2,221
    Aug 2, 2021
    What he clearly lost to both
    How does anyone think the Charlo fight was even close
     
    KO KIDD likes this.