Who are your top 10 H2H HW’s?

At their best, head-to-head, against any heavyweight before or since?

I'll go with a handful of boxers and a handful of punchers.

* Lennox Lewis (could outpunch or outbox just about anyone)
* Vitali Klitschko (could outwork just about anyone)
* Muhammad Ali (could outbox or tko just about anyone)
* Oleksandr Usyk (could outbox just about anyone)
* George Foreman (could knock out just about anyone)
* Deontay Wilder (could knock out just about anyone)
* Joe Louis (could knock out just about anyone)
* Riddick Bowe (could outbox or stop just about anyone)
* Larry Holmes (could outbox or stop just about anyone)
* Wlad Klitschko (could outbox or stop just about anyone)

Tyson Fury, at his best, in 2020, in the rematch with Wilder, may be able to beat every heavyweight on that list above.

But, that was literally a one-off performance. He was never as good as he was that night, before or after. And in some fights, like the last Usyk fight, he just looked atrocious, bloated, soft. So, it's difficult to gauge him. Fury's a real wild card.

The others in history were too small for the above, too light for the above, too erratic, didn't have the whiskers, or tended to quit when the going got tough or they were losing, or all of the above.

Liston quit twice and was later knocked cold by a guy who weighed 199 pounds. Head-to-head, everyone on the above list wipes him out or Sonny quits before that.

 

fixed it for you.

 

Tier 1 : Ali/Holmes/Tyson
Tier 2 : Bowe/Vitali/Holyfield/Lewis/Foreman
Tier 3 : Usyk/Wlad

 

01 Joe Louis
02 Muhammad Ali
03 Lennox Lewis
04 Evander Holyfield
05 George Foreman
06 Rocky Marciano
07 Mike Tyson
08 Sonny Liston
09 Jack Dempsey
10 Larry Holmes
11 Harry Wills
12 Jack Johnson
13 Oleksandr Usyk
14 Wladimir Klitschko
15 James J. Jeffries

 

Liston got knocked cold by a top ten contender when he was, at the very least, in his late 30s — and more likely in his 40s. Martin went on to become the number one contender right after. We all know your hero wanted no part of men like that. At the same stage in his career, Wilder’s padding his record with Tyler Woodley — or whatever the **** his name is — a guy who wouldn’t crack the top fifty if half the division retired tomorrow.

And regarding Liston quitting — he had a shoulder injury, with seven doctors confirming he couldn’t defend himself. We all know Wilder would've never defended against a young Cassius Clay in the first place. Being ranked in the top 20 automatically puts you on Wilder’s “do not call” list.

Having Wilder in the top ten but not the man who dominated him twice — three times if we’re being honest, though I’m feeling generous — is as big a joke as you are.

 

Big fan of Wilder but top 10 h2h is crazy man

 

1 - Muhammad Ali
2 - Joe Louis
3 - Lennox Lewis
4 - George Foreman / Larry Holmes
5 - Sonny Liston
6 - Riddick Bowe
7 - Joe Frazier
8 - Mike Tyson
9 - Harry Wills

 

Bro has Wilder next to Foreman and above Wladimir, Bowe and Holmes lmfaoo. Wilder isn't even h2h better than prime Povetkin or Ibeabuchi and neither of them were champions. Fury would get destroyed by Lennox Lewis that much i am certain of

 

Ali
Louis
prime Tyson
Holmes
Lewis
peak Wlad
Bowe
Foreman
Holyfield
Liston

 

Ali
Wladimir
peak Tyson
Holmes
Louis
Usyk
Lewis
Liston
Foreman
Vitali