Fear of consequences is a good thing. Life is harsh, especially if you make the wrong decision or act disrespectful for no reason to a stranger. It was simple, step out of line, get whooped. We understood the rules and broke them at our peril. My parents never spent 2 hours trying to get me to go to sleep, take a bath or do my homework. They worked hard and didn't need to be disrespected in their home. I don't know if you have kids, just remember you're not raising children, you're raising that child to be an adult some day. Do yourself and society a favor, don't make your misgivings as a parent societies problem.
Probably a short-term consequence, but in the long term, it would be much better for the sport. I definitely don't see how a fighter who has popped multiple times and is now in the twilight of his career, knocking out a prospect, is a positive outcome. Splitting hairs, I think fighters who have popped once and not popped again could potentially be given the benefit of the doubt, but Whyte has failed 3 times. His first 2 year ban was because he said he "didn't realise" he took a contaminated supplement - so surely from that point onwards you're getting someone to handle your nutrition, but the fact he popped two more times after this shows that he still doesn't care. In fact, he's more than likely actively cheating because he's looked considerably worse in comeback fights after popping for PEDs.
You should spend more time in the Lounge, it's brimming with countless old head manifestos from me. The movie thread alone is practically bursting at the seams with them. The Mulholland Drive Wild Cherry Cola Film Club.
Look at it this way, 10-12 good ass whoopins growing up by someone that loves you and has your best intrest at hand or getting whooped by a stranger that my beat you to death because you don't know how to STFU.
I'm not talking about fear of consequences though. Of course there should be fear of consequences. Fear of abuse/violence is a different matter. Yes, children should fear the consequences, of having something taken off them that they love, or being grounded for a certain amount of time and not allowed to play with their friends. Whatever tends to work best. Using violence to get your point across to your child is just lazy, is likely an excuse for someone to satisfy their anger issues, and sends out the wrong message. But anyway, we'll agree to disagree. I sincerely hope that you are okay nowadays, that's what matters.
I can't remember if I posted it on this thread, but I was trying to find more details of Whyte's failed tests and it seems he only got sanctioned for the first one back in 2012. Yes it was sloppy of him, but reading the circumstances it didn't sound like he was purposefully doping. I couldn't find much info on his next two failed tests, but it sounds like that they were trace amounts consistent with tainted supplements, and if he learned from his first failed test he should have had batch numbers, product numbers and dates which would clear him. And since he wasn't sanctioned I can only assume that he was cleared? Do you have any more info on this? Because I have been going along with the "Whyte is a drug cheat" narrative for years but when I dig into it I can't actually find much evidence.
Aside from the highly publicised 2012 one, the more recent ones came after he was a massive part of the domestic British scene, with Fury and Joshua paydays lined up, so it was in everyone's best interests to make it go away. Someone said he failed one as a kickboxer as well, but I can't find any evidence of that. The 2nd and 3rd failed tests were both "isolated" apparently, but given that it happened several times, it's a pretty suspect pattern. He was asked in the build-up to this fight whether he was being "extra vigilant" about his nutrition, and he told the reporter it was a "dumb question," without providing an answer. There's also speculation that he adopted the Connor Benn approach and had the financial and corporate means to make it disappear. Again, though, that's either speculation or the real reason it's hard to find a definitive answer about the other tests.
NEGATIVITYYYYYYYY What's going on? We finally have an exciting fight on our hands again after a dull period where we can finally get a better idea of how good the number one heavyweight hype is and also find out what is left of whyte and everyone is ranting about generations and itauma's personality and whyte's drugs and beating children. Must be the hot weather I presume... This is an awesome fight and the faceoff has me more excited than before.
This made me laugh. That's why I thought to end it there as I didn't want it to continue to interrupt or derail the thread. I'm very excited about this fight... I love those fights where either scenario could happen. Either Itauma's going to get found out up against his first live body and struggle, or Whyte's gonna go sleepybyes. I feel like the latter is probably more likely. Chisora probably would've been an even better fight, as Chisora's chin is way better and he has no quit. He'd have really enjoyed roughing the young lion up and potentially making it a very uncomfortable night for him. That's why they probably chose Whyte. They needed a well-known name with a poor chin.
Physical discipline is not always abuse, and abuse isnt always physical, or even “negative.” A spoiling parent who gives into their kids every whim is probably a more common form of abuse nowadays than physical abuse… and id say neglect via screen time is probably the most common form of abuse…. With that said, whipping a kid with a board for tickling your feet sounds excessive to me - but @Braindamage seems to be alright with it and doesn’t consider it as such…. So *shrug And Whyte most likely is coming to get paid and will leave early… Hope im wrong, but he hasn’t looked good in years, and has gotten older and had his bell rung a lot since then.
You've just neatly explained why you're brain damaged. My grandpas were born in the 19th century. They knew how to inflict pain.
Whyte failed Drug Test before Oscar Rivas fight (Eddie Hearn, his promoter, pushed the BBBC to allow the Rivas fight to go on ... Rivas and his team weren't notified ... which was scandalous) https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28238799/dillian-whyte-doping-charge-dropped-eve-fight Whyte failed Drug Test before the Anthony Joshua Rematch (Eddie Hearn decided, this time, that Joshua was too important to let Whyte fight him with a failed prefight test ... and Hearn certainly let Joshua know, unlike Rivas, the test results) https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_...ls-drugs-test-joshua-fight-cancelled-promoter 3 failed tests in 32 fights, the first resulting in a two-year ban, the second should've cancelled his interim title fight with Rivas (if Rivas was allowed to know), and the third causing a multi-million-dollar fight with Joshua to be called off ... It is certainly a BIT MUCH to simply brush off, given he shouldn't have been allowed to fight Rivas.
Everyone has a chance against anyone in the division, at this level. What's your point? And who said Whyte was going to beat fury? I supported him the most on here and even I said Fury is Whytes worst match up. And also, if Whyte is so bad then how did he Best Joseph Parker? Ex World Champion, younger man, boxing since he was 10. How did Parker lose to Whyte? Should never have happened then if Whyte is as bad as you make him sound. You're being ridiculous.
Bro, you don't know the half. I was probably knocked out 4-5 times before I was 12. Falling off the back of a truck, racking my head on the ****** bars, slamming my head into a tree trunk while on a rope swing, shotgunned with a baseball, slammed on the ground playing football. Oh, and when I was 13 my pops knocked me out for talking about my mom to my brother. Of course my brother thought that was some funny ****. I'd probably be a completely diffrent person if not for all the head injuries. LOL