Ron Lyle: Terrible match up for Marciano?

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lyle is Taylor made for Marciano. He’s a less stamina having but stronger version of Layne. Literally Taylor made for him.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Lyle, like Cleveland Williams, is one who should beat Marciano on paper, but somehow, I think Marciano would prevail, stopping a weary Lyle in the mid-to-late rounds. But it would be a tough fight for Marciano.
     
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  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Lyle was a waggoner before boxing. He'd...wagon that eye-tallian all over the ring, I believe.
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano beat two opponents similar to Lyle old Louis and Rex Layne. They were particularly easy fights because they were both feet planting punchers that weren’t movers. Lyle had terrible stamina issues and wasn’t particularly adaptable. He would struggle terribly w Marciano in every way. He gets knocked out within ten.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Bigger than Layne ,hits harder than Layne, has better defence than Layne,and is a better boxer than Layne.Why do you say Lyle has less stamina than Layne?,Why are you so sure stamina would even be a factor in this matchup?
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Because he never was?
     
  7. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lyle couldn't beat a washed up Ali...or a washed up Foreman...but he's going to beat one of boxings all time great warriors?...a prime Rocky Marciano?...yeah...and then you woke up!...
     
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  8. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lyle is not a better boxer nor better defensively. They both are poor in that department. They both are very similar. Layne is a little smaller but faster and has better stamina. Which fighting Marciano is important for any fighter. Lyle is known to get tired in his fights and gets extremely sloppy once so. If you can’t see how that’s a factor when fighting one of the most busy fighters ever w power in both fists I’m not sure what to tell you. I know you’re not a Layne fan because he lost to Marciano but the truth is him and Lyle have similar career accomplishments. I’d even say Layne is more accomplished having beaten two former champs and several solid contenders

    also being bigger means nothing in boxing terms it’s not going to improve your boxing record in any way. Listing an inch and half height advantage means nothing.
     
  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Marciano was never KO’d by a guy the size of Lennox Lewis… good point
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Neither the ancient, balding, paunchy, one-handed mummy calling himself Joe Louis nor the Girl Scout weak, flabby, doughboy Rex Layne were anything close in physical potential and acuity to the feral, robust, dominating physical presence of Ron Lyle. Lyle was a prototype for the super athlete that would dominate the majority of all sporting fields from Liston/Jim Brown/Chamberlain's inception to the modern day. There is simply no place in that era for a specimen such as Marciano, or Layne, or an old Joe Louis Barrow.
     
  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you actually watch boxing or just stare at men’s body types? You don’t seem to know much of the sport. Lyle was sloppy had **** stamina and poor defense. He had an excellent power. Not that impressive.
     
  12. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you actually watch boxing or just stare at men’s body types? You don’t seem to know much of the sport. Lyle was sloppy had **** stamina and poor defense. He had an excellent power. Not that impressive. He also lost to 195 pound Quarry. Some specimen
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes, and in Louis I see a shadow of a shadow of a once great fighter, a guy with one slow arm, doddering footwork reminiscent of a recent former US president, and a look of resignation about him like a man being sent to the gallows. When I watch boxing involving Rex Layne I see a real tough SOB with limited skills and even more limited physical prowess.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    :lol: One of the dumbest and most non-sensical takes, I've seen here.
     
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  15. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guys, I don't know where all this talk of Lyle's "poor stamina" originated, but let me tell you, I was a huge fan during the Lyle era and practically knew what every top contender had for breakfast. And believe me, no one was talking about Lyle and poor stamina. Not during his prime ('74-'75) anyway. The guy was fighting hard fights with Bonavena, Ellis, Young and Ali during this time frame and that wasn't even a topic of conversation. Regarding a matchup with Rocky, this would scare me. Because of the Foreman fight I think Lyle is thought of only as a bruiser today but he could box as well. He was very well rounded. If matched prime for prime I just can't get myself to go against Rocky. Moreover, I think he would welcome the fight. However, there is no way in hell Al Weill would ever sign Rocky with a prime Lyle.
     
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