Is Usyk the modern day Ali or the modern day Marciano

I think you did a good job answering your own question. Style-wise he is certainly closer to Ali both physically and mentally. Resume-wise he is closer to Marciano but Usyk's career is not over so that could change.

 

Not sure if you read my post in the other thread, but...

I'd like to flesh it out just a bit more...

It's astonishing how everything they are saying about Usyk is Marciano all over again.

Just as they try to say Marciano was too small, while ignoring that Frazier, Louis and Liston were not modern heavies either, they tried early on to brand 6'3 Usyk as a cruiser and minimize his chances.

Just as they try to degrade all of Marciano's early competition when some of them were actually pretty good guys, we have to hear about how Usyk is not a great heavy because half his fights were at cruiser, even though some of those cruisers would beat most heavies.

Just as the haters take a nothing fighter in Nino Valdez, or a guy whose time-frame was off like Liston or Patterson (who was LHW at the time of the Rock's reign) and try to make one of them the guy the Marciano was supposedly afraid of, so we are already seeing this with various guys like Parker, Kabeyal and Ituama.

Just as Marciano is criticized by revisionists for taking on some of the best heavies twice, namely Charles and LaStarza, while crying about how he didn't fight guys who mean nothing to history like Valdez, Satterfield, and Jackson, so we are getting the crying over Usyk fighting Fury, Joshua and Dubois twice rather than Joyce, Zhang, Hrgovic and Wilder, and two which he could beat on the same night.

And here, just as the haters try to ignore that everyone who ever knew him talked about Marciano's insane work ethic, same thing with Usyk.

 

Neither. Hes the modern day Galento, though less physically fit

 

Skills of Ali, heart of Marciano.

 

He's the modern day Usyk. Always comparing .. hes this own man just like they were.

 

They are all completely different...


Sexually, physically, mentally, spiritually you name it. Everyone is unique impossible to draw comparisons.

 

Fact. We've never seen a heavyweight like Usyk. That doesn't mean he's better than Ali, it just means he's different.

 

He is so thoroughly dissimilar to literally every1 but Galento it's not even funny.

 

Let's take fighting style and resume aside. He's the modern day Ali (later career face-Ali, not young heel-Ali). Admired and liked by boxing fans around the world, perhaps the most famous person alive from his country (I guess arguably Zelensky is?), a beloved national hero in his country, etc. You meet any Ukrainian anywhere, doesn't matter if they have never otherwise watched a boxing match in their life, they've seen him fight.

The last one I can remember similar to this was I guess Pacquaio? Widely known and respected to boxing fans, a legend in his own country, any random filipino you meet will have seem him fight, etc.

 

He's nothing like either really.
Ali was a disrespectful POS and had pretty bad defence, which is why he ended up a vegetable.
Marciano was just a construction worker brawler, really.
Usyk would destroy both.
The idea Ali could hurt Usyk is pretty funny, actually.

 

Hi Buddy.
If I had to choose who he is most like, then I would say more like Ali than Marciano, as for the vegetable comparison, sounds unkind, he was afflicted with Parkinson's syndrome as far as I know, fairly sure this condition is common place, and can and does strike anybody, scientist, or boxer, obvs him fighting for too long didn't aid his ailment, and yes he did receive a lot of punishment, throughout his career, so your point stands.
stay safe buddy, chat soon.
Mike.

 

CW made such excellent points I am forced to change my position.

Marciano

 

I agree with all of that other than the nasty veg jibe and Ali was standing up for opressed blacks during a horrible period in US history.

 

In a boxing forum with many users providing valuable information with decent knowledge its below any threshold to really read an analysis that muhammad ali was just a POS with a poor defence and rocky marciano was no more than a brawler from the construction side ...

Naah...