the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

This is uncanny. Just yesterday out of the blue I was thinking about this fight, which I saw years ago. Hadn’t thought about it in years, then it just came to me for no reason. Now this. Weird.

 

Great minds...............

 

Gennady Golovkin D12 Canelo Alvarez (1)

I hadn't seen any of their trilogy. First, I have little use for modern boxing. Second, I don't like Canelo. I have never respected "connected" fighters, or promoter's favorites. This favorite son has just been on the right end of too many close decisions for me to think his career and legacy were that honestly come by. This fight did nothing to sway my original opinion.

The fight itself never really took off, though of course the HBO announcers did their best to convince us it had as it went along. Overall, GGG fought an intelligent, measured fight and Canelo seemed too content to wind up big shots at the beginning of a round and try to be coy the rest of the time. Apparently that was enough to get a draw, thanks to Adelaide Byrd, who is either terribly inept or well-paid by promoters. Either way, she should be drummed out of boxing altogether.

Not a great fight, but an interesting one marred by a poor decision. GGG won this one handily, I thought.

1. GGG
2. Canelo
3. Canelo
4. GGG
5. GGG
6. GGG
7. GGG
8. GGG
9. GGG
10. Canelo
11. GGG
12. Canelo

116-112 GGG.

 

Wladimir Klitschko vs DaVarryl Williamson

Round 1: 10:9 Klitschko
Round 2: 10:9 Klitschko
Round 3: 10:9 Klitschko
Round 4: 10:8 Williamson
Round 5: 10: 9 Klitschko

Total: 48-46 Klitschko, Technical Decision

I sometimes hear Wlad had problems in this fight. Nonsense. Williamson was running around, trying to take Wlad into the later rounds. It was the time when Wlad was viewed like Zhang is viewed today when it comes to gas tank. But Klitschko controlled the fight with only 1 flash knockdown in the round where he came back hard and you can argue he could have lost it only 10-9 as one of the Showtime commentators did. The cut that ended the fight was ugly!

 

Jose Napoles KO7 Ralph Charles

Napoles traveled to Wembley in London for this defense, a bit of a globetrotter he was. To hear Reg Gutteridge tell it, Charles was known as an aggressive pressure fighter, but you wouldn't know it from this fight. Napoles of course routinely punished all such behavior. One of history's best counterpunchers, so the Englishman's chances with such a strategy were slim. Accordingly, Charles instead attempted to move and potshot here and there. It probably allowed him to survive longer than he otherwise might have, but it also made light work for the champion, who won every round on my card leading up to the end.

Napoles is so sharp and cool under fire. His head and upper body move constantly, mesmerizing the opponent in the manner of a cobra swaying before striking, almost hypnotizing its victim. when he throws, the punches usually come in bunches, the left hand featured predominantly. The right hand is punctuation.

Here, Charles must be content to to try evade and find a bit of center ring to set himself and heave something in an effort to make Napoles stop and regroup, and build upon that. No such luck. The few punches that find home reveal that Napoles' chin is concrete, and the only worry the champion has are his fragile eyebrows, which this time pose no problem.

This is basically glorified sparring for the Cuban. He wins as soon as he decides to turn it up a bit, and Charles is spun around and goes down after a Napoles flurry. He either just beats the count and is deemed unfit to continue or can't quite make the ten count. It's academic. He'd have gone down again as soon as Napoles released the hounds anyway. I have to say I admire the hopeful optimism of Gutteridge, a homer for sure but a good announcer. At one point he managed to find solace in the notion that Charles was making the champion work, and have to come forward a lot, which might indeed take some spring out of Napoles' legs as time went by.

Any port in a storm.

 

Sal, hadn't seen this in awhile but I seem to remember in about the 6th round Charles caught Napoles with something, which really irked him and he went into the next gear. Napoles always seemed to have that relaxed style until someone ticked him off. I saw the same thing in his title fight with Adolph Pruitt. Pruitt was normally a counter-puncher but he went right at Napoles in round 1. Napoles, in kind, immediately went into the next gear and stopped Pruitt in the 2nd. Amazing fighter. Don't get on his bad side.

 

Ezzard Charles v Johnny Holman II

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Charles
Round 3: 10-9 Charles
Round 4: 10-9 Charles
Round 5: 10-9 Charles
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Holman
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Charles
Round 10: 10-9 Charles

Total: 99-94 Charles (actual scores: 100-94, 98-89 and 98-96* all for Charles)

*I put an asterisk on that last score because it was announced quite clearly as 98-96, but boxrec has it as 98-86 so there may be some controversy there. Can't see a 98-86. That is wildly one-sided but I don't know the criteria of the day.

To be clear, this is not vintage Charles in any way. He was 33 with a lot of mileage behind him. Ezz was a fighter who would always try and please the crowd rather than escape with a boring points win and he stayed inside with the heavier, big-hitting Holman throughout. Holman was a big hitter but a bit ponderous. But still wouldn't want to stay inside taking shots from this guy. Not an overly exciting fight but I still love watching these old fights.

 

@scartissue

Probably just a boxrec typo. I used to have boxrec editing privileges years ago but not anymore or i'd fix it.

 

Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin II

Round 1: 10:9 Canelo
Round 2: 10:9 Canelo
Round 3: 10:9 Canelo
Round 4: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 5: 10:9 Canelo
Round 6: 10:9 Canelo
Round 7: 10:9 Canelo
Round 8: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 9: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 10: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 11: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 12: 10:9 Canelo

Total: 115-113 Canelo Alvarez

I'm getting into my Canelo bag for the fight week. Started with the rematch with GGG, cause why not. I always found the fight extremely hard to score. I scored it for Golovkin twice (once as wide as 116-112) and once scored it a draw. This time, I gave all swing rounds to Nelo to see what happens. Well, he won on that card. That's the best card you can have for Alvarez me thinks, which also proves, that the fight could have gone either way. At least in my view.

 

Edwin Valero v Vicente Mosquero (lightweight title)

Round 1: 10-7 Valero (scores 2 knockdowns)
Round 2: 10-9 Valero
Round 3: 10-9 Mosquero (scores a knockdown)
Round 4: 10-9 Valero
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Valero
Round 7: 10-9 Valero
Round 8: 10-9 Valero
Round 9: 10-9 Valero
Round 10: Valero stops Mosquero

Total through 9 completed rounds: 89-81 Valero (actual scores: 88-82, 87-82 and another 87-82 all for Valero)

My first response on this fight is: Damn!!! I gotta say these two really went at it. I don't believe I have ever watched an Edwin Valero fight in its entirety. And clearly not too many people on this thread have been interested in him either. I did a quick search to see if this fight had been scored by any of us and no one had. So I narrowed my search to see if anyone had ever scored a Valero fight. The last time he was even mentioned was 12 years ago. So this is a good time for this fight. Valero has no defense. His defense is his offense. Mosquero discovered the southpaw Valero was wide open for a lead right but it didn't look like he had the gas tank to keep up with Valero. I only scored the 2nd round 10-9 for Mosquera because Valero really came back hard after the knockdown. But despite the wide scores, Mosquera kept it competitive in a fight I would recommend.

 

Mike, I checked the reports on the fight and it all said that the score was 98-96. They even made a point of saying judge Gene Knitzchke had it very close at that score. So it is indeed a boxrec typo. I know someone over there, I'll contact them tomorrow and see about getting it changed. Thanks for getting me going on this.

 

Canelo Alvarez - Erislandy Lara

Round 1: 10:9 Lara
Round 2: 10:9 Lara
Round 3: 10:9 Lara
Round 4: 10:9 Canelo
Round 5: 10:9 Canelo
Round 6: 10:9 Lara
Round 7: 10:9 Lara
Round 8: 10:9 Canelo
Round 9: 10:9 Canelo
Round 10: 10:9 Lara
Round 11: 10:9 Lara
Round 12: 10:9 Canelo

Total: 115-113 Erislandy Lara

Another close Canelo fight with a lot of swing rounds. I however felt like Lara was doing more effective work throughout the rounds he won. Canelo had his spots of beautiful shots to the body but it wasn't enough to edge the fight on my scorecard. Again, fight wasn't a robbery, I can see it going in Nelo's favour all day long and I remember it scoring for Alvarez once before.

 

Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin I

Round 1: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 2: 10:9 Canelo
Round 3: 10:9 Canelo
Round 4: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 5: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 6: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 7: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 8: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 9: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 10: 10:9 Canelo
Round 11: 10:9 Golovkin
Round 12: 10:9 Canelo

Total: 116-112 Gennady Golovkin

Pretty easy fight to score. The most you can give Canelo here is a draw and you would have to give him every round that was remotely close (rounds 1 and 11 I assume). GGG controlled the pace throughout, landed most effective punches and was more efficient. Seems like I had the same scorecard as salsanchezfan, big up!

 

It was mostly dinovelvet who said that on here I am pretty sure.

 

Bad decision for sure, totally agree.