Just to whet the appetite, here’s Cleve and Ron awaiting their pre fight medicals prior to their big fantasy match up. Two very big dudes for their day: - https://www.gettyimages.com.au/deta...u-check-out-now-dr-isamu-news-photo/838106668
Lyle vs Shavers was a better brawl than Foreman vs Lyle for mine. I don’t know what the punch count is/was for RL vs ES but they seemed to be throwing and landing a lot of leather for the time the fight lasted. I also think that Liston vs Williams 1 was also better than GF vs RL and I might just put it ahead of RL vs ES also.
I've always liked Williams' combination punching but his chin not so much. Lyle seems a bit slower and a bit less skilled but a lot tougher and probably harder hitting. I think Williams has his moments but Lyle ends up putting him to sleep.
Yup a better version who was much slower, did much much worse against boxers, and beat less top tenners.
Lyle is better in the areas that are important here which is chin and a slightly better defense. Lyle won’t be doing much boxing here and neither will Cleveland.