Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. Terence Allan Crawford, Jr.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Jun 18, 2025.


"Cinnamon Boy" or "Bud"?

Poll closed Sep 13, 2025.
  1. Álvarez on points

    41.7%
  2. Álvarez by stoppage

    21.2%
  3. Draw

    3.3%
  4. Crawford on points

    28.5%
  5. Crawford by stoppage

    5.3%
  1. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    If GGG couldn't get to Canelo's body, then Crawford sure as **** won't. Canelo is exemplary at countering body shots.
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, Bud is not Plant. But he’s also not a natural at this weight — just added bulk to a smaller, more slender frame. Style-wise I see it being a somewhat similar fight as in how it plays out.

    I don’t think Bud is going to wear down Canelo with body shots, no. But I think Canelo can use his body attack and greater natural size/strength to wear down Bud.

    We’ll see soon enough.
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Bud’s skills level is different. Comparing lil g’s skills level with Bud is disrespectful. Bud is digital whereas lil g is analogue that is is the contrast.
     
  4. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Erroll Spence my guy is a great body puncher a very highly skilled pressure who alongside Bivol had the best jab in the business and you know what Bud did to him with his multi dimensional offence. The thing is Bud is in position to hurt whilst you can’t get to him and he hits hard. Anybody who think Canelo can walk through. Bud’s shots is dreaming and like Canelo is in for a rude awakening.
     
  5. kdyehs

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    Canelo is low volume, flat footed, and has not scored a KO in a while. He has lost at least twice as many fights as his resume tells. The only question is, can Crawford be comfortable in his first fight at this weight?

    I think Crawford can TKO Canelo.
     
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  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Skills win fights not size.
     
  7. Reuben Jones

    Reuben Jones Member Full Member

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    It's really arrogant to tell somebody they don't know boxing, just because they have a different opinion on how they see a fight going. I see this all the time on here and it annoys me. None of us are psychics, and no one truly knows how a fight may play out. Boxers can fight each other twice, and beat each other in two completely different fights. Sometimes two ex-boxer pundits disagree, do they not know boxing?

    This is one of those fights where you can imagine EVERY scenario happening. Which is what makes it so damn exciting. I LOVE these types of fights.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Khan was actually way smaller than Clenelo and he was facing a prime Clenelo who wasn't on a four year KO drought Vs cherrypicks and Khan was boxing his ears off for 5 rounds. Crawford isn't much smaller than Clenelo at all and Clenelo has way more miles on his clock, fought a much higher level of opposition, a lot more punchers, a lot of fighters who were bigger and heavier than him, and has fought way more rounds

    He can stop Crawford if he can actually can catch him clean, especially with regularity, but if he can't we know that even in his prime he cannot deal with certain styles
     
  9. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    This could totally happen but I hope it doesn't. We'll see.
     
  10. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    You're not wrong, but he looks pretty good at the weight. Not sure he's gonna be that much weaker than Canelo in there like in the clinches etc. Maybe he gets manhandled but I'm not too sure about that. High school wrestlers, ya know?
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The weight is the main question here. Crawford is very obviously the better fighter p4p. It's just a matter of size mostly. Also, since both are past their prime, who has is more preserved too.
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yeah, canelo is not going to outgrapple him. but the difference will show itself in bone to bone collisions.
     
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  13. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is hard to say no to a truckload full of money but Crawford should have stayed at 154. This fight is a testament to all wrongs that plague boxing as a sport.
     
  14. Salty Dog

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    might very well happen, but Oscar/Pac, Usyk/Big Dosser...surr I'm missing a bunch of historic fights. We'll see pretty soon. Woot!
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i agree, but oscar was far from the p4p list, as well as fury, realistically speaking. i think canelo is pretty close to complete still, just fighting bigger guys lately. hes not fighting a bigger guy today, not a naturally bigger one.
    pac/cotto or duran/barkley would be a better comparison of the significance. it would really be something if bud really was on that level of achievements. we shall see tonight if he really is on that level.
     
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