Canelo has been shot since Bivol

The reign was somewhat underwhelming, in that, yes, he didn't fight Benavidez when he could. He should have, but how he won each of the titles 1 by 1 by facing undefeated 168-lb champ one after the other and impressing in each of those fights, becoming the first ever Undisputed 168-lb Champ was an incredible accomplishment.

 

How about Canelo vs Mbilli for Mbilli's interim super middleweight title? It would put Canelo back on the path to winning back his titles, if a rematch with Bud doesn't happen.

 

Stop crying. Wow, y'all act like some bitter chicks..... Crawford accomplished something great that y'all claimed he had no chance at doing, now you want to tear down the opponent because your man crush couldn't do the same. You didn't make a thread discrediting Canelo leading up to the Charlo fight........ You conveniently left his name out when you name dropped claiming he looked like crap against......

You sound like a bitter "chick"......and I say chick because they've already suspended my account once this year because you babies on here don't like the way I address certain aspects of your ignorance.

Celebrate greatness or stfu....... You made a thread because you hate that people are celebrating a 14x world champion. A 3x undisputed world champion. A 4x Lineal champion. A 2x Fighter of the Year. Wow....hatred is a deadly disease.

 

Judging from the round by round scoring, the majority of scoring did not indicate a comfortable Bud win. I was surpised to see as many score this for Canelo given the history of Canelo scorecards. In this case Canelo was not on the receiving end of favorable scorecards. But I do not have a problem with Crawford winning, given the flashy eye catching shots that he landed, given that he was difficult to be hit with big Canelo shots. Bud deserves credit for pulling this off, but to argue that it wasn't close enough to warrant a rematch, many would disagree about that, and rightly so. Though I can certainly understand the view that Crawford won convincingly enough to not need a rematch, but the sense I get is that Canelo would be better in a rematch after having been in there with Bud. He hasn't had the opportunity to avenge any of his defeats, but rematches with Bivol or Bud are now distinct possibilites. You also have plenty of other opportunities for Canelo. You could have Charlo Crawford and Canelo vs Mbilli, Benavidez or Bivol then have the winners fight. The question for Crawford is how close to the end of his road is he? Can he fight on for several more years at the level he fought at against Canelo or is Bud about done and ready to retire after this win?

 

At 38, Crawford is not at his peak either.

 

100% agree with this post and most people who are not biased agree with this.
Add to the fact that a version of GGG that was slowing down beat Canelo the first time ....

 

Yes, of course. Bud wouldn't be so eager to fight him at his own weight class. And it turned out, Bud was seemingly bigger and heavier (and stronger) in there. Hence, I did not really understand why so many were picking Canelo by demolition, especially when Crawford was the "fresher" fighter and Alvarez just younger by age number. I already realized it versus Spence.

 

I think we are talking about small margins here. Canelo has been in decline for a while, but there isn't a huge difference between prime Canello and the current version.
His skills and reflexes haven't dropped of a cliff, this is not a pronounced decline. Perhaps he isn't ingesting enough contaminated meat. Canelo was (and is) a good all-rounder, a fighter that is well-rounded and well-balanced and not over-reliant on a limited number of attributes or outstanding skills.

 

Being past prime and shot are two entirely different things. Canelo is NOT shot.

 

Leave greatness talk to pundits and casuals - we are talking hard truths here. It was a good competitive fight and a good win but it is on the same level as Canelo beating faded Kovalev at LHW. Canelo hasn't been the best fighter at SWM for a few years now. Crawford will not have staying power at SWM just like Canelo did not have staying power at LHW.

 

You sound silly. Fans don't talk about 'greatness'......... Go sit you goofy ....... in the corner. FANS are the ones who coin the term GOAT.... Do you not know what GOAT is an acronym for? FANS talk about greatness regularly in regards to why their favorite player, fighter, coach, etc.... is their favorite. Boy, stay in your lane.... Who are you to tell someone else what not to talk about.

Greatness is determined by accomplishments PERIOD. Crawford and Canelo are the most accomplished active fighters today, which is why this was such a big event. Crawford wasn't even in the same division. If he wasn't great, the event would have been treated the same way as the Canelo/Khan match up...... Instead, we had over 70K fans pile into a stadium to see a couple of GREATS go head to head.

Kovalev wasn't in his prime but he still had a world title which means he was still competing at a high level. If I remember correctly, one judge had it even going into the 11th round. It was a close fight. Canelo's youth and power became the X factor. You sound dumb claiming someone hasn't been the best Super Middleweight yet, he's carrying all the titles of that division. So who was the best Super Middleweight then. What you going to say Benavidez? Someone who's own actions took the belt out of his reach.

Crawford will not have the staying power at 168lbs. Where did you get the notion he was staying at 168lbs. He came to the division for a CANELO FIGHT. For legacy, becoming 3x Undisputed. Crawford will be 38 years old. Who knows if he even continues to fight at all, let alone try to sustain his career at 168. Especially being that in the post press conference, he specifically said that he might go down to 160lbs. Y'all claimed he didn't have the power in the first place to deal with Canelo. Now it looks like you want to move the goal posts yet again. You goofy fans can't win betting against him so you come up with more silly claims, excuses, and quotes to try and belittle his achievements.

What we saw was two GREATS facing off in a bout that crowned a now 3x Undisputed World Champion. Which is a GREAT accomplishment piled on to of those accomplishments...... I will continue to talk about greatness because discussing mediocre individuals like yourself is not very entertaining to me.