Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. Terence Allan Crawford & Christian M'billi vs. Lester Martínez RBR

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I was genuinely taken aback at just how awful he was. I don't recall him being quite that bad before

    Granted, he had the likes of Lampley, Roy, and the GOAT Manny Steward alongside him all of whom I like or love the commentary work of and I don't care for or can't stand most commentators, whereas, conversely, he was accompanied by Ward this time who I loathe, but he was still even worse than I remember.

    I think I've always disliked him to a certain degree but the HBO team was a very good one and he wasn't as bad back then and was much more tolerable. He was beyond insufferable on Saturday night
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    As a skill, its fairly simple. Same as catch and shoot defense where upon you let your own counter go when the opponents punch makes contact with your guard.
    The opponent blocks your punch, and you use the momentum to throw another one. We actually do boxing drills in the gym that work off of this concept - how to throw a follow up punch when your opponent blocks the first one(s).

    But to recognize the opportunity for a punch like Crawdord did... that takes world class boxing IQ, and talent. Its an insane thing to pull off.
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The straight left was blocked by Canelo, but Bud quickly turned that into a left hook that landed perfectly. Canelo did appear to land a jab of his own there, but it didn't land with the kind of force that Bud's left hook landed.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I just checked Boxrec Rankings, and currently Bud Crawford is ranked the GREATEST SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT THAT'S EVER LIVED, after one match at the weight.:lol::BangHead:
     
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  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ok that's absurd. He did look great, but ask me if he'd have beaten RJJ at 168. lol.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Okay so the good news is an editor appears to have noticed that and taken action.

    The bad news is...they correct it by putting Álvarez in the #1 all time slot and bumping Crawford down to number two. Calzaghe third, Ward, fourth.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    ...also, Kassim Ouma, whose prime was spent entirely at 154lb and whose record above middleweight is 0-6, is somehow ranked number 22 all time at super middleweight. :lol:
     
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