Usyk vs Lennox

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And the other way around, considering that Holy was passed it and Tyson was a shell.

    Some might call Vitklit, but Vitali lost to the two best fighters he ever faced, and was not a true, first tier great.

    Love both these guys, so I don't really have a dog on this one, except to say that to me, each would be the best the other has faced.
     
  2. Jakub79

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    Usyk is Mavrovic 2.0. Bigger, stronger, better trained, much better defensively, more experienced, and fighting from a reverse position, with inhuman conditioning. He can increase the tempo after 10 rounds. Lewis was breathing heavily against the Croatian after the 8th round. Seriously, gentlemen, watch some of Lewis's fights.

    Usyk tko, towards the end of the fight.
     
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  3. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. Smoochie

    Smoochie G.R.E.B G.O.A.T Full Member

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    Care to elaborate why?
     
  5. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He never does lol. At best he'll just quote boxing rec stuff because that's the height of his analysis.
     
  6. jarama

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    Lewis could fight at distance and in close,

    Lennox has fought better people than Usyk has fought, and Usyk never been hit by anyone as hard as he Len can

    Lenny the lion wins in 9 painful rounds for Usyk, goes down like Rahman in the 2nd fight
     
  7. grantsorenson

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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure... ...Because I am confident that Lewis is not only bigger and stronger, but also really that much better than Usyk. The gap between them is considerable, in my opinion.

    We saw what a burnout like Fury was able to do against Usyk in their first fight, when he stopped clowning around and applied himself for several rounds. But, as capable as Fury was of doing good work, he also had the capacity to squander opportunities. He was sloppy, smothering his own work, and not consistent enough in his level of performance and concentration to maintain what was working and the threat level he posed. Usyk welcomed the space to turn the tables back around and capitalized accordingly.

    Lewis applies the pressure in that situation and has Usyk on the defensive much earlier. In this situation, Usyk can't afford exchanges and has to give ground. However, whereas Fury seemed tentative on the march forward, Lewis relished this kind of tactical advantage --- a guy looking to escape rather than exchange was quarry to him.

    He's going to push Usyk to the ropes - with ease - and often. Usyk's opportunities to score are vastly reduced in this scenario. Heck, the combined movement of Lewis and his jab alone is a major work-rate suppressant for the smaller man. A Lewis who presses forward with his complete armory, is a pure stylistic misery for that same, smaller man.

    Lewis would deliver much more damage in a shorter space of time and just wouldn't let up until the job was finished. I honestly think, if Lewis were to land the kind of uppercuts on Usyk as did Fury, the whole shape of the fight would change - dramatically and permanently - and it's just a [short] matter of time before Usyk falls.

    What chances does Usyk have? Well, one could always hope he pulls out a sledgehammer left and knocks Lewis out. Or, he confuses Lewis so much with his 'southpaw' stance that Lewis is unable to launch or sustain an effective game plan and loses on points. These are really quite slim to none outcomes, in my view.

    Usyk deserves the props he gets for achievements in his own time, but his current standing is inflated by the backdrop of the somewhat flawed heavyweights he's beaten. Matching him against Kings like Lewis is always going to be a stretch. But it does give Usyk's fans something to imagine, at least.
     
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  9. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely, Usyk is a nightmare matchup for Lennox. Take into consideration that fighters that presented Lewis with angles often lasted the distance with him, post prime Holyfield in back to back fights, Marovic and Tucker. The only one of these guys at their best was Marovic who did much better than expected in their fight, despite being an unknown. Usyk with his superior footwork, stamina and speed would challenge Lewis even if he was an orthodox fighter. Now throw in the fact he's a southpaw and their is a clear indication that Lewis did not like facing southpaws. (He threw away a belt to avoid Byrd) I can see Usyk, with his resume of defeating super heavyweights in their prime while already fighting at an age himself where Lewis had called it quits shows me that Usyk could very win this matchup. In fact I believe he would.
     
  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody can rough up Usyk. Can't corner him, can't grab him, he's like a snake covered in oil in those situations. One of the biggest things that enables him to take on these giants. You can see AJ trying it, Fury trying it, Dubois trying it, it never works, they learn it never works, then they just stay back and box because that's all Usyk will let you do.
     
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  11. SouthpawsRule

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    Lewis was heavy and lumbering on his feet, easy to hit as well, Usyk would neutralize his jab with his lead hand, circle him and land his left hand all night long.
     
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  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: You must be talking about Jerry Lewis.
     
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  13. OddR

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    With these superheavyweights Uysk seems to be able to take over with his work rate.

    Can Lennox avoid that?
     
  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes - by dominating with the jab, among other things.
     
  15. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How if Usyk can take away his jab and use his movement to make Lewis work. You're really overestimating Lewis and underrating Usyk (as is typical for you)
     
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