How well does a motivated Tim Witherspoon do against Joe Louis?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    A fit,motivated Tim Witherspoon stepping into the ring against the Brown Bomber (circ 1938) .

    Tim had the Philly shell which could frustrate Louis's straight -ahead attack.
    Plus his chin was excellent (not counting the Smith loss)

    So a 15 rounder with Witherspoon eager and primed?
    How well could he have done in there?
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I don't see Witherspoon as a good match up for Louis.

    Witherspoon's best shot is to land that big overhand right hand that could knock him down.

    Witherspoon's crab defense might confuse Louis at first. But the crab defense works well vs guys who throw 2-3 punch combinations. Guys who through 5-6 punch combinations like Louis will find gaps in the crab defense. The crab defense is weak to great combination punchers IMO.

    A peak 207 lb Louis of the Baer 2 fight is too much for Tim. Tim had a habit of standing close to his opponents as opposed to dancing away from people like Holmes or Ali. You can't stand in front of Louis unless you are a Foreman or Lewis type puncher (which Witherspoon isn't).

    I mean Tim is a good puncher. But a outstanding one like Foreman, Tyson or Lewis? Nope. Louis has such quick hands that by the later rounds, he will find gaps in the crab defense and will likely knock Tim down a couple of times to win a decision or a late stoppage.

    I give Witherspoon a solid chance of winning the early rounds but Louis will figure it out. Ultimately, Louis is the quicker handed guy with superior power and combination punching.

    I give Tim a 10% chance of winning but my pick is Louis by late stoppage.
     
  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Whilst I agree that Louis wins, I think that this could be potentially one of Joe's hardest fights.
    It's true he didn't hit hard but even guys like Braddock could drop him, so there's a danger there.
    Coupled with Tim probably being one of the most skilled defensive, bigger fighters he'd have ever fought.
    Maybe a decision, possibly split,win for Louis but knows he's been in a fight.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    The Philly shell will catch the straight punches but it won't catch all the hooks and uppercuts thrown amongst combinations. Witherspoon will be in front of him a lot too, not forcing him to reset and chase. Louis is the better boxer of the two.

    Joe Louis TKO between rounds 5 and 10.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    H2h he might very well beat Louis. Witherspoon would be his most skilled opponent, even including the smaller men
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    This be blasphemy
     
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  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't call Witherspoon more skilled that Conn, Walcott and Charles.
     
  9. ThatOne

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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not Charles, but he's much bigger
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I would favor Louis but I think Tim’s defense, jab, overhand right and solid chin would make it a tough night’s work for Louis
     
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