Who was the greatest middleweight of all time? (poll)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Sep 24, 2025 at 11:41 AM.


Who was the greatest middleweight of all time?

This poll will close on Feb 8, 2053 at 10:41 AM.
  1. Carlos Monzon

    17.6%
  2. Harry Greb

    19.1%
  3. Marvin Hagler

    44.1%
  4. Gennady Golovkin

    7.4%
  5. Mike Gibbons

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Bernard Hopkins

    8.8%
  7. Mickey Walker

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Jake LaMotta

    1.5%
  9. Charley Burley

    1.5%
  10. Marcel Cerdan

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 Member Full Member

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    Greb. Not only the greatest at 160, the greatest of all time in any weight class. Deepest resume at 175 too.. better than Ezzard Charles' IMO.. Then we have the likes of Fitz, Zale, SRR, Langford, Hagler, Steele, Monzon, Burley, Hopkins, Toney, Benvenuti etc... all great fighters in their own right but Greb is king. His resume is untouchable.
     
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  2. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones jr can't be called the greatest middleweight cos he didn't stick around too long at the weight but for my money when he was champ there, he was best middleweight if you taking about h2h matchups
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When there is no film of your fights, when most of your fights had no judges, when every public spar or exhibition is counted as a fight, when nearly every bout went the distance, and when practically the only accounts of most of your fights are from local hometown newsmen who said you won every round ...

    Of course, your resume is untouchable.

    If we had no Canelo fights on film, every spar or exhibition of his counted as a "no-decision win" and basically only the Guadalajara press kept score, he'd be 350-0 right now.

    Greb's resume is fantasy.
     
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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Hopkins was inside the CW limit when he first started and had several fights inside the SMW limit I believe
     
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  5. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    Glad someone dares to take that position here and with this eloquence. I am not invested enough in these historic stages of boxing to really voice an opinion, but my gut feeling says the same.
    It's a nice fantasy though.

    It's like many people preferring those 80 round fights in the sun and saying people were tougher back then, when we all well know what fighting machines exist in modern boxing. It's like blaming a ferrari it can't plough the field like a tractor.
    Still I like the romantic touch of that thinking. But not to the detriment of the ferraris.
     
  6. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

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    On paper, Greb, followed by Monzon, Robinson, Hagler, etc. But I can't rank Greb with any confidence H2H without footage. For that, I'd go Monzon or Jones.