Arreola says Ruiz and Vitali hit harder than wilder

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, perhaps he was just referring to the kind of punches he got hit with ?
     
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  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Prime Arreola knocks Wilder out inside 5 rounds.
     
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  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I remember thinking at the time that Wilder Arreola was a strange fight I was expecting a big KO but it was pretty lacklustre from what I remember.
     
  4. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    Not surprising. Wilder might have the most overrated power in the history of the sport.
     
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  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Fighters are notorious for saying fighters who they performed well against were their best opponents, hardest punchers, etc…

    Kinda like Floyd saying DeMarcus Corley hit the hardest of his opponents or Emanuel Augustus was his hardest fight….
     
  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    What did fury say about it
     
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  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Yes... thats why Wilder had Arreola wobbling around the ring like he was just kicked out of a bar at 2am in the morning, and his corner (or him) wouldnt even come out for another round of action, and 5 years later at 40 years old he went all 12 with Ruiz in a slugfest where he absorbed everything Ruiz threw at him without even being close to knocked down or seriously hurt.

    Thats obviously because Ruiz actually hits harder than Wilder, and definitely doesn't have anything to do with boxings timeless tradition of talking up the guys you beat or gave tough fights to over the ones that mopped you.

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    Sidenote : Wilder beats prime Arreola, but it would seem to be obvious that a prime Arreola would beat Ruiz. Makes me wonder how a prime Arreola would do against other guys of this era. But realistically probably just means Ruiz was just pretty overrated. I say that as someone that always kinda rated him as a darkhorse. But barely getting by a 40 year old Arreola and an 80 year old Ortiz, kinda puts things into perspective.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He clarifies that that what he means is that Wilder generates his power with the extended right only, whereas Ruiz hit with good power in every punch.

    He's right and I have been saying it as a fan for years. One of the first things a boxer is taught is to shorten the punches, and guys who can REALLY hit are the guys who generate power with those textbook punches, like Foreman.

    But in all fairness, Wilder does generate more power with that completely extended punch than Ruiz does with anything he throws. And Arreola knows that.
     
  9. Bart Allen

    Bart Allen New Member Full Member

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    He also said that Gassiev hits harder, and that was including Vitali ~
     
  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    There never was a prime Arreola.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder suffered a broken right hand AND a torn right bicep in his fight against Chris Arreola, and still stopped him in eight rounds.

    Both injuries required surgery to repair.

    It boggles my mind that nine years later this isn't lauded as one of the great wins.

    Nine years later, some fans - who clearly don't know what they're talking about - bring up this fight like it wasn't a truly amazing victory by Wilder.

    How is anyone still Unaware of this?

    Name one heavyweight champion who won a heavyweight title fight by Ko with a broken hand?

    Name one heavyweight champion who won a title fight by Ko in a fight where he had a torn bicep.

    Can you even name one? Because Wilder scored a KO despite suffering both.

    Heavyweights get praised if they overcome something as minor as a cut in a fight.

    Wilder with a broken right hand and a torn right bicep STILL Hit hard enough to stop Arreola.

    It shows not only how hard he hit but how he refused to quit despite suffering two major injuries in one fight.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Name another heavyweight champ who won a title fight by Ko with a broken right hand and a torn bicep?

    Most people can't pick up a drink and hold it to their mouth with an arm with those two injuries.

    Wilder was still bouncing shots off Arreola's head hard enough to stop him.

    Arreola would've won the heavyweight title that night if he was fighting anyone else with those injuries.

    Tons of name heavyweights and all timers quit with far less significant injuries.
     
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  13. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    "The guy I beat or gave hell to hits harder than the guy that stopped me."

    Just like Larry Holmes downplaying Tyson's power.
     
  14. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali smashed the **** outta Areola.
     
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  15. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

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    Parker also said that Ruiz is the hardest puncher that he has ever faced. That's why when we have this hardest puncerh conversation we have to define what we mean by "hardest" and take care when using fighter's quotes as evidence.

    In context I think Parker meant that he felt Ruiz's shots a lot more than against guys like Joshua, Wilder or Zhang. As in they hurt when they landed.

    There is no universal meaning of "hardest puncher" that is beamed into everyone's heads so they we are automatically all on the same page. It could mean touch of death one punch KO power, it could mean heavy thumping shots that a fighter feels through their whole body, it could mean how much it hurts when it lands etc.
     
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