Is the voting for the IBHOF biased in favor of American and British boxers?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Oct 8, 2025 at 8:49 AM.


Should nationality matter when voting for the IBHOF?

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  1. Yes, American and British fighters should be favored

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  2. No, boxers should be judged on their accomplishments

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  1. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Being favored has nothing to do with it. Its just a well known fact that most of all the greatest boxers in history are from the U.S.A and if they were not they only made their stamp in boxing because they were allowed to box in the U.S.A
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    "but was stripped of the others because he was not an American" You keep repeating this, but it doesn't make it true.

    Like I said, he held the WBO belt when it did not matter. And at the end of the day it hurt his legacy and his potential. His claim as two division champion is ****ing joke.
    And if he was truly frozen out of the division, then I dont see how he could have achieved more than Hill.
     
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    https://boxrec.com/en/event/7816/11742

    "Immediately after this fight, Michalczewski was stripped by the WBA for holding the WBO belt together with the WBA belt."

    Was that fair? Had Dariusz been an American, would he have been stripped for that reason? I don't believe so.

    "On March 7, 1997, a federal judge Dickinson R. Debevoise of U.S. District Court at Newark, N.M., ruled that the IBF must give its leading light heavyweight contender a title shot by July 19 or face a fine because it harmed the fighter by breaking its own rules.

    Under the ruling, No. 1 contender William Guthrie had to fight the winner of the April 19, 1997 match between IBF champion Virgil Hill and WBO champion Dariusz Michalczewski within 90 days of the bout.

    But on May 10, 1997, IBF president Robert Lee stripped Michalczewski of his title."


    If Michalczewski had been an American, would he have been given the 90 days? I believe so. Obviously unfair.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    And had he been British?
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was more a refusal on the WBA, WBC (neither of whom are American based BTW), and the IBF not playing ball with the newer formed WBO.
     
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  6. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Probably would have been treated better. Certainly in the 21st century, as boxing has become more popular and lucrative in the UK than it is in the USA, some influential UK promoter like Hearn or Warren would very likely have stood up for him.
    The WBA and WBC may not be American-based, but they were heavily influenced by wealthy American promoters like Don King at that time. Much of their revenue came from boxers and events in the USA, and so they tended to favor American boxers over European.
     
  7. JohnJax

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    That's like saying the IBO champ should get in for being a world champ. It is great on paper but lacks real value. It wasn't until after he retired that the WBO became a real belt
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    If the IBO ever gets recognized then Eubank Jr. automatically gets recognized as a two division world champion, lol.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    The WBC and WBA were doing the same type of stuff when the IBF first surfaced.
     
  10. JohnJax

    JohnJax Member Full Member

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    But it wont change his historical standing. It only will change future champs. People never talk about Johnny Nelson being a super dominate champ despite 13 defenses of his WBO belt while Huck is respected for his reign
     
  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    You say that, but Nelson won the belt in 1999.
    Here is a list of boxers who held a WBO title before Nelson won his:
    Dariusz Michalczewski
    Michael Moorer
    Joe Calzaghe
    Steve Collins
    Chris Eubank
    Winky Wright
    Oscar De La Hoya

    All of their reigns are considered legit these days, even tho they held the belt before it was widely recognized to be legitimate. De La Hoya is considered a 6 division world champion even tho he held the WBO belt at 130 way back in 1994.

    People just dont give a **** about Nelson. :lol:
     
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  12. JohnJax

    JohnJax Member Full Member

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    Everyone you mentioned, but Dariusz Michalczewski, won and defended other titles or aren't HOFers either
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Dariusz beat Hill for the IBF and WBA titles. His WBO reign is considered legit. Calzaghe´s 20 title defenses are considered legit.

    Point is that if the IBO tomorrow would be considered as on of the "big 5", then historical revisionism would take place as it did with the WBO, and also as was with the IBF at one point.

    Bernard Hopkins´ undisputed Middleweight reign is considered to have started with his win over De La Hoya, but it actually was when he beat Trinidad.
     
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  14. JohnJax

    JohnJax Member Full Member

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    Im not arguing that the reigns wouldnt become legitimate. But in the collective mind of the voters, it will always be a lesser reign due to not being Big 3 (at that time)
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Arturo freaking Gatti is in the boxing HOF. And Mairis Briedis probably won't even get in. So, yea. Pretty obvious there is bias against fighters without a large ethnic following.
     
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