Floyd Mayweather Ran From Manny Pacquiao The Whole Fight

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  1. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    I just rewatched the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight on YouTube. Man. It was boring. Fight of the century my @$$. Mayweather stank up the joint. He was non-stop running & hugging. I thought I was watching the 100m sprint or a game of tag with the way he moved. In the last 10 seconds of the bout, as Floyd was running side to side, he raised his right-hand glove in the air as if he put on a triumphant performance, when in reality he just jabbed, pot-shotted & evaded contact from either running or holding all night. Terrible. However, I still feel he rightly won the fight, but he spoiled his way to victory, was extremely evasive, ran a lot, held on way too much. He never wanted to engage, just survive & play it safe.
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  2. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacman should be able to fight a runner. GOAT p4p except for if you run makes no ****ing sense. Pac lost, earned the loss, and proved beyond all doubt he's not GOAT level. Money is doe.
     
  3. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That clip is a little misleading
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd dominated the fight*

    fixed it for you.
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I don’t think “Money” is GOAT level, I think he was special fighter but there are a lot of them it’s just Mayweather never got in his own way the way a guy like Marlon Starling did… those two are about the same level, I think history is littered with Mayweathers… just for one reason or another they don’t become the best of there era.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I thought Floyd won legit. But at that stage it really didn’t matter much
     
  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I wished Floyd had engaged more but you obviously do what you do best.

    Floyd was clearly leery during the opening rounds and, IIRC, a single Manny left rocked him back on his heels and into the ropes in those very early rounds.

    I wasn’t thrilled about Manny’s performance but then the fight was 5 years too late, and the Marquez KO loss was incurred in the interim.

    Floyd’s celebrated “timing” wasn’t a description confined to just his moves in the ring.

    He took a long time to reconcile himself to the possibility that PAC was finally ripe and that he (Floyd) might finally get over the top of him.

    I seriously believe that IF the fight went down as at the time it should’ve gone down, PAC would’ve won and it may well have brought the very best offensive effort on Mayweather’s part.
     
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  9. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol Pac fans still butthurt 10 years later.
     
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  10. BoxingWarrior

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    Hours before the fight, Mayweather received two IV infusions of saline and vitamins at his home— a procedure banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) unless administered in a hospital or with strict Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) protocols. His camp secured a retroactive TUE from USADA, but it violated NSAC rules on location and volume (over 500ml total), sparking outrage from anti-doping experts.IVs aren't just for hydration; they can mask performance-enhancing drugs by diluting metabolites, and in this case, they ensured Mayweather rehydrated to 160+ lbs post-weigh-in, maintaining sharpness and stamina.
    Without the IV, Mayweather—known for extreme dehydration tactics—would have entered fatigued, with slower reflexes and reduced punch resistance. Pacquiao, who rehydrated naturally, pressed relentlessly in the middle rounds; a compromised Mayweather likely folds under that volume, as seen in his closer fights against dehydrated foes like Jose Luis Castillo. Shane Mosley, a Mayweather victim, called IV bans "dangerous" but admitted the edge was real—without it, Pacquiao's body shots and left hooks land flush, turning defensive rounds into damaging ones.
    Las Vegas' MGM Grand Garden Arena, while geographically "neutral," functioned as Mayweather's backyard. As a Las Vegas resident and promotional powerhouse (via his TMT Promotions), Mayweather benefited from a pro-American crowd, Nevada-based judges (Dave Moretti, Burt Clements, and Glenn Feldman), and a commission (NSAC) intertwined with his camp. This setup bred perceptions of bias, with post-fight lawsuits alleging fans were defrauded by the outcome.One scorecard even featured a bizarre "red vs. blue corner" mix-up that conspiracy theorists (and some analysts) linked to rushed judging under pressure.Internationally, the fight looked far different. Media scorecards from outlets like the BBC, The Guardian, and ESPN's global panel often favored Pacquiao or called it razor-close (e.g., 115-113 for Pacquiao in several European tallies). A Quora analysis of fan and expert scores showed a split, but non-U.S. observers overwhelmingly highlighted Pacquiao's cleaner, harder shots in key rounds (3, 4, 6, 7, 9), where he outlanded Mayweather by 10+ punches each time. In a venue like Singapore (where Pacquiao has massive support) or London, judges less beholden to U.S. boxing politics would have rewarded Pacquiao's effective aggression over Mayweather's defensive jabs—potentially
    Pacquiao fought with a torn right rotator cuff (same injury that sidelined Kobe Bryant), which NSAC refused to treat with an anti-inflammatory shot pre-fight. This slashed his right-hand output: He averaged just 16 right jabs per round (vs. his career 26) and landed only 18 total, crippling his setups for the devastating left. Even hobbled, CompuBox showed Pacquiao's 81 landed punches were mostly power shots (42% power accuracy vs. Mayweather's 23%), outdamaging the American in effective aggression.A healthy Pacquiao? His prime ferocity (think Marquez or De La Hoya destructions) overwhelms Mayweather's shoulder-roll defense.
    Experts agree: Oscar de la Hoya said a prime, uninjured Pacquiao "beats Floyd easily," citing stylistic mismatches.3b5218 Stephen A. Smith echoed that Pacquiao "already beat Mayweather once" when unburdened, pointing to judging as the real scandal. Reddit and Quora threads dissect how the IV preserved Mayweather's late-round control, but sans it, Pacquiao's cardio edges out flipping those close 116-112 cards.
     
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  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao was destined to lose anyone with s brain ssw it coming
     
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  12. Showstopper97

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    Not even. I think Prime Floyd beats Prime Pacquiao. I'm just stating the facts. Floyd shouldn't have needed to do all that running & hugging to beat Pacquiao (especially in that stage of Manny's career). Floyd fought scared. His dad in the corner even said it.
     
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  13. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    100% fought scared, reminded me of Mosley vs Oscar… he won end of, better boxer by far but “eh” I’d rather watch Manny.
     
  14. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a reasonable response so ... well done on that. In a den of trolls and all that.

    It is difficult for me to agree to something like a man who owns multiple historical records is also repeated through history.

    Likewise, it is difficult for me to agree to the running general consensus that is anti-goat-Mayweather. That is to say, I recognize thinking Money is not GOAT does not make you a hater perse, but there is still a consensus that include them and so to be generalistic; anti-goat-money.

    My problem with the usual suspects for alternative p4p king is the very well known taints of their time. I know it is common to accept old world propaganda in its time and uphold said propaganda under the reason "we know no better", but for myself, I refuse to crown a goat who came from a period we all know was unfair.

    You may think I mean racism, and yes but not limited to, before it and after it was nationalism. Mayweather is your first international GOAT candidate. All before him fought under unfair situations. The only thing unfair about the situations during Mayweather's time were orchestrated by the man himself. Not the elites of his nation. No lords gave a **** if May won or lost, no owners of men, no elected officials, for the first time in boxing history.

    So, when you tell me who else litters this history the same way be very prepared to talk about things like the People's Movement, or Facism, or The British Empire's "Tools for Civilization", the dogmatic nature of ancient boxing, or the control of Figg, or the fall of the USSR, point being I don't really care when the GOAT you claim is GOAT happened, I am not attacking their resume, I am attacking when in history they existed.


    I do genuinely hope, despite not agreeing, you found this reasonable as well. I enjoy the few real conversation I have here, but :lol: if you are trolling me then well done sir, I was a mark the whole way through
     
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  15. Glass City Cobra

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    That was Manny's fault.

    You're fighting a guy for the FOURTH time and consistently failed to make adjustments AND got yourself knocked out. Marquez made adjustments in training camp, Pac didn't.

    I remember talking to my friend after the fight discussing how Pac has reached his ceiling as a fighter when it came to elite opponents. If he was still going life and death with guys like Marquez and Bradley at that stage, he was never going to beat Mayweather outside of a freak cut or puncher's chance.
     
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