Roy Jones Jr. vs. Bernard Hopkins: Nov. 2003, who wins?

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Jones Jr. vs. Hopkins II Nov. 2003

  1. Jones Jr.

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  2. Hopkins

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  1. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

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    Jones skips Tarver I and fights Hopkins for a second time. Who wins at 175?
     
  2. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great question.
    I think the journey to heavy and back had depleted Roy enough that he was no longer superman. Tarver could have got the win in fight 1 and I think given the same opportunities Hopkins would probably have enough to pressure Roy and score to at least grab a points win. Johnson would stop Roy in his next fight and Hopkins was a more refined version of Johnson. Cuter, dirtier better defensively and crafty with his attacks. We know triangles don't always work but years later Hopkins would box circles around Tarver. I think the timing was on Bhops side. Shorn of his brilliant speed and a touch of power and with his reflexes slowing Jones wouldn't have beaten Hopkins at this point.
     
  3. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is right around when the wheels finally fell off for Jones. But, he still might win a decision here. Jones wins anytime, at any weight in between 1991-2003.
     
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  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    The 1st Tarver fight was Razor thin, I had Jones winning 115-113. Had that been Hopkins moving up 2 weight divisions I think he would have had a great shot at beating Roy, especially after how drained Roy looked in that 1st fight with Tarver. In hindsight though, I think most of us would have picked Roy to pull off a decision, but a Hopkins upset wouldnt have been out of the question..
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I don't know but I do know that Hopkins has a better chance at victory than he did when they actually fought.
     
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  6. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    This might well have been the first 'right' time for Hopkins to catch Jones. Hopkins still had a lot left in the tank. And this was the beginning of RJJs steep - and long lasting - decline.
     
  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Hopkins gets a decision and hurts Jones along the way.
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Jones still had enough to brave out a decision. He would still be bigger and faster and potentially stronger. Jones still had enough to out work and defeat Tarver down the stretch of the fight
     
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  9. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think after the 3 defeats around 2004-2005 Jones was done, he never beat a top quality fighter again. A shot Lacy, Semi retired Trinidad who came for a pay day and some lower tier fighters was all he could manage despite pushing Lebedev close.

    Hopkins simply aged better and had more in the Tank: Tarver, Wright, Pavlik, Jean Pascal, would be some of Bhops best performances while RJJ was clearly struggling to be what he was.

    Bhop V RJJ in 2005 to me at least would be a Hopkins win.
     
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  10. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s more competitive than the 1st, Hopkins gets him against the ropes a few times and tags him, but Jones does win the fight in a tough fight IMO.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Hopkins BARELY gets a narrow decision in 2003. Jones was still awesome but he was very clearly in decline