Can Wilder be a coach?

I think Wilder is a better boxer then the tape hes put out there and pretending he doesn't know what hes doing has been part of his gameplan. But at that same time if his other skills could pay the bills he'd be using them.

Theres a specific kind of fighter he can really help. Someone with power who otherwise would be a deer in the headlights at the top level could really learn something from Wilder. Wilders greatest gift wasn't power it was finding ways to land it against more traditionally talented people. Thats a valuable skill that can raise ceilings. If the hardest hitting human ever truly didn't know how to box thats a club or state level fighter.

 

"Here he is coaching neon"

Man, you said that like you assumed I'd know wtf that was. Is this a person we're all supposed to be familiar with, because I am not young.

 

Wilder may know more than he does, Journeyman and never-were fighters have become very good teachers.

 

I got to where he teaches him to throw a right hand… firstly teaching someone to jab should start at the feet he is basically teaching him to punch with his arms, he gets him to finish throwing the right hand and teaches him to pivot the hip all the way through at the end…that is not more important then teaching them how to get there hips in front of there fist at the beginning of the punch. I thought a guy known for a big right hand might be able to show someone, perhaps he picked it up instinctively?

 

lol - he told Neon to go to his corner but said… “you go to your ring, I’ll go to mine” I love that guy.

 

He’s such an amicable guy it always seemed really whacky when he was trying to be a Mike Tyson destroyer type… I wish in his time he’d leaned into his salt of the earth, slow talking, good farther nice guy attitude. Glad to hear he’s still fighting, last fight it did look like he was working on his jab, not fighting but working on things like a new fighter or a guy on a COMEBACK.

 

This. Most former boxing stars usually don’t make good trainers, since more often then not they can’t fulfill this requirement.

 

"Now kids, this is how you yell BOMB SQUAD!!!"

 

A serious coach? Doubtful. Could he do a world of good as a coach in some youth program for kids from underprivileged neighborhoods and bad situations? Absolutely.

One aspect I'd point out is that, unlike many HW's, he was always good at staying fit, eating right, staying lean. He does know how to live the life and could impart some knowledge on that.

 

I think he would be a good amatuer Trainer. He knows the fundamentals of boxing.

 

This is a classic theme with "naturals"...

There is, of course, a spectrum of natural ability - both in terms of physical gifts, and in terms of ability to learn things quickly and instinctively.

On some level, a certain degree of gift in both is necessary to be competitive at all:
- An Adonis with a granite chin and the fast twitch reflexes of Usain Bolt, but an IQ of 65? You're not going to be able to effectively train that guy - he might always see the final bell and might be able to naturally top out a punching machine, but being that dumb he's not going to land a punch and he's going to get hit a lot.
- The second coming of Einstein? He might be smart enough to intellectualise every single thing his opponent wants to do - but can he do anything about it with such limited physical ability? No.


Sometimes naturals can achieve quite incredible levels of performance without working very hard (Fury, for example)...
Sometimes they can reach quite decent performance levels despite lacking the intellect to understand, or the humility to listen and learn... Yet naturally a combination of physical gifts and a natural style which works with those can still produce a half decent performer - and that's Wilder to a tee.


But that's where the problem comes in, here, Wilder isn't an intellectual who understands what he does well and why it works, let alone what he does badly (or how to fix it!)... Then you have the fact he's a poor communicator, compounding the problem of limited knowledge with limited ability to transmit it.

Can an individual like that teach amateurs, instil confidence and send guys out at local levels who aren't completely helpless? Of course.
Can he fine tune highly talented guys to have success at the top of the pros? Almost certainly not, IMHO - there's just too many impediments.

 

Not until after he has faced AJ.
Unfinished business.

 

For what?