Marciano vs Dempsey

Dempsey early or Marciano late, odds of Dempsey winning early are higher than Rocky winning late though imo

 

Dempsey was a very skilled boxer and for the first 6 rounds he’d make Marciano walk through hell…

 

The ref would have to rescue Marciano early. Brutal beating from Dempsey

 

Dempsey was simply better imo.

 

Marciano easily. The Rock fought the best he could find, including the some of the best to ever do it. Dempsey climbed out of the ring to avoid good fighters and lost to Meehan.

I know who the real legend is.

 

Marciano did beat better fighters. The only thing is Marciano doesn't have a world class SHW on his lists of victims. Willard, whatever you think of him, was the reigning heavyweight champion so he's about as world class as you get.

I slightly lean towards Rocky to pull it off after taking a severe beating.

 

We've always disagreed on this one.

Marciano was the sort of force Jack never faced. Marciano may go down in a flash but Dempsey was a four round fighter at best and Rocky would take him into deep waters and absolutely drown him.

For all the crap I give Marciano's resume, Jack's is worse.

 

Miske was a better puncher then Marciano.

Thats not to mention Fulton, Morris, Willard and Firpo. You could say a lot of unflattering stuff about the other 3 but Fulton was the closest thing the early 20th century had to Liston and Foreman. The 2nd hardest hitter in Marcianos HW division was probably Rex Layne. Louis had lost his power.

Dempsey stopped all these threats facing serious reach disadvantages. With Marciano the roles would be reversed. And hes going to be the one to put Dempsey down?

 

I see a willing and game Marciano being stopped on his feet later in the fight. The first few rounds would see Dempsey lighting up Rocky - who was never hard to find - and Jack with his two-fisted power and a speed and reach advantage is going to wreak havoc on Rocky's face. The Rock will warm up for the middle rounds as Jack inevitably slows down a bit and they will pan out more even - both men landing big, but not enough to stop each other. By the later rounds, I think the cumulative damage will be too much for The Rock to overcome at this point. I can't see how he makes it to the later rounds without suffering some sort of major facial damage which ultimately warrants a stoppage.

 

Marciano is a real champion. Dempsey is champion over a field of exclusions. Simple enough, all fair champions over all unfair "champions"

I don't recognize Crown propaganda either. All champions over an unfair field are lesser to champions over a fair playing field. Period, end of, take you clip show to Youtube, take your circle jerk articles from known racists to someone else, I can not be reached.

 

Tough matchup. Plenty of fouls both ways. Dempsey had more talent but Rocky used all of what he had. I think Marciano beat better people.

I'm gonna lean towards Marciano to be honest because I've seen more of him. Obviously with two punchers i wouldn't rule out a Dempsey win.

I think Marciano can get through of the early rounds and start imposing his will and conditioning.

Marciano by decision.

 

I have to think if Marciano could make it out of the first 4 or 5 rounds he would find a way to win. Dempsey would light him up in those early rounds for sure and it would be hell surviving them.

 

So the thing is, I tend to agree with the folks who think Dempsey had more tools. He literally wrote the book on punching power. He had some light feet when he wanted to have. He probably had a speed edge and probably threw a harder best punch out of the two. His wingspan is greater.

And yet, when we compare resumes, Dempsey has lost, has been knocked down and been knocked out. Marciano is the non plus ultra here with the pedigree, the fearsome KO percentage and the spotless record against bigger names than Dempsey fought. It's hard to argue with real-world results.

I think I have two main problems in picking Dempsey over Marciano.

First, Dempsey had a bit of the old Holyfield in him, where he'd brawl guys that he could outbox - eg - Firpo. I have no doubt that he would to slug it out with Marciano too, and he's throwing away a lot of advantages like that. I think Marciano is tougher, has much better stamina, fights close up better and is probably downright nastier to boot. Not the guy you want to phone booth with.

Secondly, I don't think the desire burned as hot in Dempsey as in Marciano. Yeah, I know JD came up half starved through hobo camps. But I get the feeling that Dempsey at his height was coasting a bit. Like the way he wasn't too keen to fight Greb, for instance. Not that he thought he couldn't beat Greb, but that he'd have to be in tiptop shape to do so, and he couldn't be arsed to go to all that trouble when there were other guys to fight. Whereas with Marciano every fight was a fight to the death and you knew darn well that he was coming in ready for war as well as he was physically able to.

So I'll go with what other guys are saying: either Dempsey blows a hole through Marciano early - and he might - or his crispness wears off and Marciano turns it into one of those bloodbaths in a muddy trench that he was invincible at, and stops Dempsey late. I lean towards Marciano on this.

 

I think Dempsey wins but this is probably the best argument for Marciano I think I've seen.