the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pat, I never knew their 3rd match was out there.

    Pipino Cuevas v Angel Espada III (welterweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Cuevas
    Round 2: 10-9 Cuevas
    Round 3: 10-8 Cuevas (Espada docked a point for holding)
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Cuevas
    Round 6: 10-9 Cuevas
    Round 7: 10-9 Espada
    Round 8: 10-10 Even
    Round 9: 10-9 Cuevas
    Round 10: Cuevas drops and stops Espada

    Total through 9 completed rounds: 89-83 Cuevas (actual scores: 88-83, 87-84 and 88-84 all for Cuevas

    Pat, although I had it a bit wider than you I still felt Espada was in this fight from the beginning. He was an explosive counter-puncher and I don't agree with the Olympic commentator Jim Healy, that Espada didn't hit very hard. It's just that Cuevas had an anvil for a jaw. But some of those shots that Espada was detonating on his chin were beauties that could have taken out many a welterweight. A bit harsh that point on Espada in the 3rd round considering what Cuevas was allowed to do south of the border on Espada. I think the ref may have been a bit rattled by the partisan crowd. They absolutely adored Cuevas. When the ref actually did caution Cuevas for low blows - without even taking a point - debris started flying into the ring. They loved their Cuevas. I totally enjoyed the fight.
     
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  2. WBAMitch

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    Dubois vs Lerena

    Had previously seen this, was looking more for the reference of Howard Foster who officiated this fight. Dramatic first round, a temple shot by Leeena offsets Dubois’s equilibrium who lands awkwardly on his knee/ankle. Top Rank commentary didn’t mention the visible issue, that led to him voluntarily going down 2 further times in this round. There was clearly an issue with the first knockdown, I haven’t seen a fighter as much as Dubois go down so much in the manner of falling forward, and basically jumping down to balance himself on his hands. In retrospect I am surprised he did not do the same in the Joshua and Hrgovic fights when hit big.

    The finish, Lerena didn’t take advantage of the vulnerabilities and left himself square on for a textbook Dubois straight right. Then comparing to Wardley finish, there were a lot of unanswered shots, but more placed shots, Dubois’s punches tend to be more correct and basic, a lot more was significantly landing including an uppercut that took Lerena down to the bottom rope, he then stumbled into Foster who called it after the bell. I don’t see an issue with the stoppage as Lerena looked gone, lack of thinking of a better term.

    Crazy to think off the back of this vulnerable performance he goes into the Usyk fight previously mentioned. Ultimately he put up more than a respectable effort in what looks a rushed opportunity.
     
  3. AntonioMartin1

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    Tyson with bronchitis dominates a courageous Jameson who came to fight but was overmatched. Imagine if Tyson was healthy!
     
  4. AntonioMartin1

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    Great fight, soured by Vazquez's poor attitude after the end. If this is how he treated boxing writers, no wonder he hasnt been voted to the IBHOF yet.

    The judges' scorecards were too wide IMO. I had it at 113-113.
     
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    I saw this on Boxrec and had to check it out
     
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    FOTY candidate That Mexicano has an iron chin and came to fight!!!
     
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    Buster's back!!!
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was at this one!

    It was a couple days before Tyson-Spinks in Atlantic City.

    Odd to think it, but Tyson-Spinks was on a Monday. The weekend leading into it in AC was like a boxing conventions.

    They had two ‘special edition of Tuesday Night Fights’ episodes put on by USA Network, this one and pretty-early-in-his-comeback George Foreman vs Carlos Hernandez, so I got to see Big George and Macho fight on back-to-back nights.

    On Sunday, Azumah Nelson beat Lupe Suarez in a 130-pound title fight that was televised by CBS and I was there live for that one, too. Suarez had Angelo Dundee in his corner and we had met and talked on the phone before, so I was able to catch up with him a bit. (Angelo invited me to Suarez’s locker room after the fight.)

    Julian Jackson iced a guy in one on the Azumah undercard.

    A saw all of the above in person in addition to Tyson and Spinks, plus guys who fought on their undercard: some guy named Buster Douglas, Trevor Berbick and Carl Williams (against each other), Donovan Ruddock and Maurice Blocker (not against each other, haha).
     
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  10. AntonioMartin1

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    I wish I had been there with you!

    The Super bowl of boxing needs to be done every year! lol

    And,yes I saw they announced Foreman-Hernandez on the telecast, I was like hmmnn..

    Also, dont forget: Sean O' Grady! I always said, when there is a big card, boxing royalty comes to town lol..

    And you knew Angelo Dundee???? How was he as a person? ..I want to know!
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

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    George Foreman vs Shannon Briggs

    Round 1: 10:9 Briggs
    Round 2: 10:9 Foreman
    Round 3: 10:9 Foreman
    Round 4: 10:9 Foreman
    Round 5: 10:9 Foreman
    Round 6: 10:9 Briggs
    Round 7: 10:9 Briggs
    Round 8: 10:9 Foreman
    Round 9: 10:9 Foreman
    Round 10: 10:9 Briggs
    Round 11: 10:9 Foreman
    Round 12: 10:9 Foreman

    Total: 116:112 George Foreman

    Very controversial decision as, in my book, Big George won it easily. He was the ring general for the most part and was hitting Briggs with more flush shots that were causing damage. Briggs had his spots where he boxed really well, but there weren't enough of them. Foreman was rejuvenated in this one, looking the best since his Moorer win. But, the karma hit him for robbing Schulz 2 years earlier.
     
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    Brian London was courageous in defeat but Floyd Patterson throughy outclassed him, I had it 100-89 in favor of the champ.

    It also amazes me-but perhaps it should not, considering it was 1959- that Patterson, the American, was booed by many in the Indianapolis crowd!!
     
  13. AntonioMartin1

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    A CLASSIC that no one knows about!
     
  14. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow! Good fight! In the first round, despite the knockdown, I was saying to myself that Vargas better watch those sweeping shots from Reyes. That 3rd round was something..
     
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  15. AntonioMartin1

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    LOL: for real!

    Id never seen it but now Im glad I did!
     
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