What would the highest you'd rank Marcel Cerdan as at MW during the 40s?

I'll look through my Ring Magazines tomorrow and see what his year on year - Year End Rating was after he first enters the Top 10, which going by memory was 1944/5 until his death in 1949.

I think too, I'll have to check, Cerdan was Ranked as a Welter too, but that might have been for a few month or something, anyway I'll look tomorrow.

I can say for fact, Nat Fleischer spoke of him as fabulous as early as 1938.

 

I think he was the best in the world when he beat Zale. Yes, Zale was old and won out from the Graziano triology but i do think that for that brief time period, he was the best in the world.

 

Cerdan ranked 3rd in 1947. Champion in 1948.

 

I think he was the best middleweight in the world, and had he been able to fight the rematch with LaMotta he would've proved it.

 

Beating a long reigning champion as he did certainly gave him a case for it, but I'd say Robinson.

 

No. Thin resume. Best win over a washed up Zale. He looks good beating up stiffs snd has beens though.

Stay safe buddy, chat soon.

 

I was right, it was 1944, Year End at No.9 Middleweight Contender,

1945 No.5,
1946 No.4,
missing 1947 presently, (probably No.1 - 3, I would expect).
1948 World Champion.

1949, deceased sadly...

I'm just looking now to see what Month in 1944 he showed up in.

BTW Guys, not sure what is going on here, but BoxRec the Ring Ratings are completely different than the actual Ring Magazines Published Annual Ratings, I have no idea what is going on with that...

here is a link to compare, this is clearer, Individual Years per picture, British and World as it happens... https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2550331728436071&type=3

@Ted Spoon
I'm sure you can see at least some of them clear enough to compare with BoxRec's RING Magazine, supposed Year End Rating's, BoxRec's are different, can't figure out why, or how?

 

the Ring's Annual Year End World Ratings - 1938 - 45 at Middleweight and 46, 47 and 48 at L-HW... in that Link, compare them with BoxRec, you will notice the differences, strange, not sure what to make of it?

 

@Melankomas

Cerdan arrived in the Top 10, April 1944, right through to August 1944, absent from the Top 10 Sept - Dec !944,

but as listed above closed the Year Out at No.9 World Middleweight Contender for 1944.

 

Its not letting me compare WW or LHW to MW.

Its possible they are "taking libertys" based on changing what fighter gets sorted in what division but otherwise keeping the comparative rankings the same. But there were enough changes where if thats the case it is not obvious. Do the boxrec magazines have extra information that would inform where fighters would be ranked if they had been ranked in another weight class? Anything that would justify these changes and passing them off as the Rings rankings at all?

In addition to "combo fighters" another possible reason for discrepancys I discovered is ring possibily not counting fights where a fighter missed weight For example boxrec says ring ranked Ernie Vigh 3rd in 1941 while the magazine has him 8th. Vigh missed weight in nearly all his MW fights so is it possible ring didn't count those catchweight fights and boxrec "took libertys" to count them. Did boxrec give him credit for those catchweight fights and just decide that would have put him at 3rd or do they have sourcing where they know he'd have been ranked 3rd?