Prime Ray Leonard v Hagler of Sibson fight, who wins?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cslb, Oct 30, 2025 at 6:34 PM.


Who wins?

  1. Leonard by decision

    4 vote(s)
    20.0%
  2. Leonard stops Hagler

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  3. Hagler by decision

    9 vote(s)
    45.0%
  4. Hagler stops Leonard

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
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  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How does the best version of Ray Leonard (Hearns fight?) fare against the Hagler of the Sibson fight?
     
  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler may be able to force the issue from earlier and close the ring off better.
     
  3. SgrRyLeonard

    SgrRyLeonard Active Member Full Member

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    Although I think Leonard would be a live underdog, I pick Hagler to win convincingly.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Hagler wins by decision.
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Very very interesting fight. Hagler of the Sibo fight for me
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If we make it prime Hagler, then it would be unfair to not also make it prime Leonard. In which, Hagler would be the favorite, but Leonard's hand and footspeed would always be problematic for Marvin. Of course, he'd be sharper in the early 80s, but Leonard would be faster in the early 80s.
     
  7. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler by UD. Would not be blinded by the BS and younger.
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Given Hagler is a true middleweight and prime Ray Leonard was a welter, I’d have to say having an advantage of 15 or so pounds probably gives Hagler the edge.

    He did tend to freeze up or fight conservatively in his bigger fights and the Hagler of Sibo hadn’t been in a really big fight before, so many he gives away enough to allow Ray to beat him. A version of Marvin who fought like he did against Duran for 12 or so rounds probably loses to prime Leonard.

    It would be fun to see what kind of mind games Ray might run on Marvin. He might just hypnotize Hagler into fighting the wrong fight or overtraining or whatever.

    Wonder what this fight looks like at catchweights (as the term is now understood — it once meant ‘you come in at whatever weight you want, I’ll come in at whatever weight I want’) at like 154? I think at that weight Leonard batters a drained Marv with a same-day weigh-in. Maybe even stops him.
     
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  9. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'll plug the upset and a Leonard decision.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was around back then and Leonard wanted nothing to do with that version of Hagler...and for good reason. Hearns, Mugabi and time created an opportunity where Leonard finally wanted to fight a diminished Hagler .
     
  12. TheWorstEver(TWE)

    TheWorstEver(TWE) Active Member Full Member

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    I think Marvin loses the first couple of rounds and then kicks into gear winning a hard fought but clear UD.
     
  13. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler at that point was simply too great. Leonard out in 8 at the latest.
     
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  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see some history revisionism dropped. Leonard was an
    consummate pro. He would've fought Hagler as early
    1982 if he didn't have the eye injury. Claiming
    "He didn't want any part of Hagler". is disingenuous
    in my opinion, especially when considering he'd
    already faced Benitez, Duran (twice ) Hearns
    and Kalule at a higher weight, Leonard wanted
    Hagler, his ego wanted and needed that challenge.
    And the money they would've made in 1982
    would have been record setting.
    Personally I believe Leonard would've made
    Hagler over think instead of letting his hand go,
    and win a decision .
    Even prime Hagler.
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2025 at 11:03 AM
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  15. Smoochie

    Smoochie Boxin' dreamer Full Member

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