Phony/Falsified records in BoxRec

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  1. Roughhouse

    Roughhouse Active Member Full Member

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    The Warner-Corrigan situation was way more complicated than can be easily recounted. Corrigan was his trainer at one point and manager as well and then they got sideways with legal threats and claims and then reunited later as I remember. Who knows what those guys cooked up at what time? Warner was a complete carny, dragging in some buddies from the wrasslin' circuit into his boxing scam, having his 1st manager Ray Whebbe find homeless shelter guys to fight and working cons on investors.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He stopped his dad too. The least he could have done was carry him to a respectable points loss.
     
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  4. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perhaps the daddy of them all - Jorge Kahwagi :

    Fake muscle implants and the best 12-0 record money could buy.

    Also boasted a 43-0 with 38 KOs amateur record which, if you watch him fight, is absolutely and totally implausible.

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    BoxRec: Jorge Kahwagi
     
  5. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any fighter with NWS's has their record without NWS's shown but it shows their real record if you click on their last fight and add the final fights result.
     
  6. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are referring to the old days of newspaper decisions, are you not?
     
  7. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes.
     
  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Scroll down a bit, his third opponent is even better:

    Baptiste fought as Akbar Muhammad. Warner's record in FightFax also lists a fight between him and one 'Leroy Jackson' on August 15 1994 at Red Lake. According to Warner's then manager Ray Whebbe this bout never happened. He had Warner and Baptiste posing for pictures in the ring together, which where then send to FightFax and passed off as a fight between Warner and Jackson.

     
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  10. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jorge Kahwagi is 12-0 (12 KO’s) and his entire record is fake.

    You can see he is hopeless and his opponents have dived in every fight he has had that is recorded
     
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  11. Felix Sanchez

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    Did we ever figure if Ali Raymi was legit? :lol:
     
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  12. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fighting under fake names thing is wild. Didn't a bunch of guys fight as "Jack Dempsey" back in the day?
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The more you look, the more Warner's record stinks of being phony.

    Warner supposedly fought a guy called Kevin Glenzinski who was supposedly making his debut. Glenzinski is only listed as having 2 fights. Both against Warner but over 3 years apart. Guessing Glenzinski probably never even existed.

    BoxRec: Kevin Glenzinski

    Another Warner opponent, Bill Borea, is also highly questionable. Borea has 4 fights listed in Boxrec, all against Warner. It is also stated in Boxrec that Borea fought under a number of aliases.

    BoxRec: Bill Borea
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali Raymi 25 fights. 25 wins. All by KO.

    Only 3 of Raymi's 25 opponents had a single loss to their names.

    One of Raymi opponents, Prince Maz, has 8 fights listed for 2014, four of them against the same opponent, Raymi, and Raymi stops him all four times. In Raymi's record, those 4 fights against Prince Maz are consecutive. So Ryami fought and knocked out the same guy 4 fights in a row?

    BoxRec: Prince Maz

    Raymi was the guy the WBA continued to rank despite him being killed at war.

    Interesting, to say the least.
     
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  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    There was even footage of one of his Raymi´s last fights, so the fights seemingly did take place for whatever thats worth. It was a fun saga, shame he died because I wanted to see how far he could climb up the WBA rankings.
     
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