Which is commercially the bigger fight for Usyk?

Internationally, Kabayel is a bigger draw than Wardley

But if the fight takes place in the UK, then Usyk-Wardley earns a bigger gate than Usyk-Kabayel simply because Wardley is British

 

The fight would sell great in Germany as well, Germany finally has a Top fighter and the viewership would be huge, of course Wardley and the UK viewership surpasses all that...

 

How is he?
Germany yes, but what other countries is he a bigger draw which would make him a bigger draw internationally?

Personally I think both fighters have 1 country they are known in and that's it

 

I think fights that don't appeal to a casual audience are going to favor the better boxing match. Which in this case would be Kabayel.

Fury, AJ and Wilder are the only fights Usyk can take where it isn't a financially netural decision.

Kabayel is by far the best boxing match for Usyk by far. If you strip away all the insane hype from Usyk Kabayel would probably be favored by a lil.

 

I feel in germany most people are more interested in mma than boxing. Germany can't compete at all with the public interest in boxing that's available in britain. Where would you stage that fight in germany? People would rather go watch football than have a fight in a football stadium where you can't see from the last rows. Not going to happen. So no more than 20000 viewers on location I think. And kabayel does not have the public recognition the klitschkos had. They were a media phenomenon.

But if the sheik pays, he decided what is commercially most interesting. He can trump what british fans are willing to pay, I think.

And legacy wise it depends on who will accomplish more in the future. Wardley is younger and kabayel is better. Wardley is more driven it seems but will he be as consistent?

Pretty equal on all accounts. And also wardley is up next in the belt politics so...

 

I think kabayel

Look at the klitschko,s , what a business it was . Germany with +80 millions of citizens of course gives a huge market for a 'german' boxing star . And germany has the infrastructure to host a very big event ( arena,s in berlin , frankfurt , munich etc )

On top on this : boxing fans want exciting fights and i think its assumed that kabayel is more of a threat for usyk than wardley .

But i agree that with the fighting location in uk wardley wouöd also be a huge event , talking only uk maybe even bigger than kabayel.

 

Wardley by a mile.

Whilst Kabayel is the more experienced fighter and arguably a bigger threat to Usyk, he's not helped himself by mainly fighting just once a year in the last several years. Far too inactive, far too low profile.

Wardley has the big British audience. Only hardcore fans in Germany know Kabayel.

 

Even Dubois is a bigger draw than both Wardley and Kabayel.

 

Whilst I wish that was the case... The klitschkos were established world champions and clearly the best in the world. Kabayel hasn't had one big fight in germany.

I would love for boxing here to gain such an audience again and kabayel could be the one to do it in theory. But I don't see it happening. And at least we will be spared the abysmal german main stream commentators on fight night...

 

you’d think a fight between Kabayel and Usyk should be absolutely huge in Germany. Most don’t give Wardley much of a chance. But how about Kabayel? I think most give him a decent chance of pulling it off.

they fight, there’s a very real chance of a German undisputed HW champ.

 

Wardley by a country mile. He's a popular Brit. Really, close thread.

 

The thing is I really wonder wether the infrastructure and viewership to promote that is still there in germany. The former tv programs all stopped as far as I know. And the main stream fans from klitschko times haven't watched a boxing match in a decade. You have to groom the viewers to enjoy your sport if you want to sell it. For all I know cricket could be the greatest sport ever, but I have no clue and won't watch it...

So unless the public media pick this fight up and promote it (unlikely) or the BILD (equivalent of the Sun i think) promotes it it is going to be hard to make the public aware of what's happening there.

If the klitschkos had just finished their careers I would have no doubt the infrastructure would be there to be able to push kabayel to stardom. They even managed to push people like manuel charr and others who are not remotely in the same league of accomplishment and talent with kabayel.

 

Wardley by a landslide....most Germans never heard of Kabayel

 

also Kabayel is not a real German , that doesn,t sell well overthere