Calzaghe would beat Pavlik decisively & hopkins WILL beat him

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bill Butcher, Aug 26, 2008.


  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I wont be hiding, why should I ?

    All I did was PREDICT a Hopkins victory, I dont care who wins as neither are my fav fighters.

    Ive predicted wrong before & will likely do so again, its no problem, its just the way I feel about this fight.

    Ps. Carl Froch better watch his amatuer mouth or JC will slap him even more stupid if thats possible, that WOULD be a mismatch.

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  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    I'm not doubting Kelly at all, I know what he offers exactly and his style is pretty clear to figure out. The confusing one here is Bernard Hopkins, you just never know what this guy plans to do in there, that's the difference between a one-dimensional fighter and a multi-dimensional one. This doesn't mean that Pavlik is crap, hell no, he's a very solid opponent and I won't be surprised to see him being a heavy favorite in this one considering Hopkins' age. If Calzaghe, who isn't one-dimensional was barely able to beat Hopkins then don't expect Pavlik to do it by "murder" or easily unless Hopkins stands there wide open and looking to slug then that's a different, nearly impossible, case.

    As far as being hard to figure out, it's all based on styles and Hopkins' style isn't easy to figure out at all, it will take aggression and affective aggression to seriously trouble Hopkins and that's something Pavlik will definitely offer but we just don't know if it will be affective enough against someone in Hopkins' style unless Hopkins runs out of gas in like 4 or 5 rounds. The same exact "Murder" stuff was said before Hopkins met Calzaghe and in the opening bell the ones that said it nearly choked. Hardly telling you that your prediction is impossible or crap, definitely not, just saying expect the unexpected.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    That's what Hopkins should worry about here, if his stamina doesn't fail him early then I pick him to win, if not then he definitely loses but never easily.
     
  4. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the point is Hopkins has never come close to having anything resembling 'murder' performed on him in the ring. Whether he wins or not is another story.
     
  5. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well I'm not going to get into some of the Teddy Atlas analogies here but just repeat the fact that the big difference between Joe and Kelly is Kelly is effective at range, power, workrate, the whole bit. Joe needs to get in close, which is why the fight was ugly in many respects. Alot of the greatest fighters in history were "easy" to figure out and despite them fighting boxers who werent they still handed em a beatdown. It doesnt matter what Bernard Hopkins steps in the ring, not one bit. We know he's crafty and will do his best to ruin the fight not bring it.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    That's Hopkins though, he will use any advantage available to win and that's something I'm sure Pavlik will be prepared for. If Pavlik stays active and keeps those serious bombs coming till the 12th then he will eventually land enough if not more than Hopkins to win a decision.

    This isn't a horrible fight, not for me at least and looking forward to it big-time. Pavlik deserves a lot of credit for taking this after not being able to make other fights, this won't be easy and he knows it, much respect to him for that.
     
  7. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    Calzaghe did'nt beat hopkins, but hopkins did'nt do enough to deserve a victory.
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Since when? He beat Kessler from range by taking away his jab, which is his greatest strength.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I don't think it's a horrible fight either. I critisized Calzaghe quite heavily for taking the fight with Hopkins, but after BHop gave Joe such a close fight, I changed my mind about where Hopkins stands in the over all scheme of things.

    As you know, I really wanted to see Pavlik/Winky because that fight would put Pavlik up against a very cagey and experienced fighter. Hopkins beat Winky, and gave Calzaghe just about all he could stand, so Pavlik/Hopkins is even better than Pavlik/Wright.
     
  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It's not gonna fail him,he's fighting Pavlik
     
  11. Irish Fire

    Irish Fire Member Full Member

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    Hopkins will use this gameplan, i guarentee it.


    Let Pavlik Come forward, pickin him of with jabs.
    Pavlik leaps forward and hopkins bombs Kelly with hooks.
    Bernard clinches, works the body.

    :deal
     
  12. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pavlik will KO Hopkins and jOEY Will retire after he fights Jones..




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  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    At what point in what round of which fight did you ever see Pavlik "leap forward?" Show me a film clip. I'll wait.
     
  14. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    what the **** is he talking about. The reality is is that Hopkins leads in with his head:deal How can he confuse the two Hopkins is dark complected and Pavlik is well white as a ghost. Is it opposite day?
     
  15. Irish Fire

    Irish Fire Member Full Member

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    Pavlik hits Taylor hard early on, then after 5 seconds leaps in with a left hook. taylor fails to counter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lfQmUZO07g

    theres a couple in the first fight but it says that the video is not available in my country.