the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Antonio, just checked this out. Also, although I scored it differently, I can see your score too. There was a very fine line between so many of these rounds. Anyways, here we go....

Mike Ayala v Julian Solis

Round 1: 10-9 Solis
Round 2: 10-9 Solis
Round 3: 10-9 Solis
Round 4: 10-9 Ayala
Round 5: 10-9 Ayala
Round 6: 10-9 Ayala
Round 7: 10-9 Solis
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Ayala

Total: 96-96 Draw (actual scores: 96-96 Draw and a 99-94, 97-95 both for Ayala on a majority decision)

Again, such a fine line with Solis the fast-moving, sharp boxer and Ayala the harder puncher trying to chase him down. So close and Solis deserved no less than a draw. But what can you do in San Antonio?

 

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Very good fight!

 

Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury

Round 1: Fury 10:9
Round 2: Fury 10:9
Round 3: Fury 10:9
Round 4: Wlad 10:9
Round 5: Fury 10:9
Round 6: Fury 10:9
Round 7: Fury 10:9
Round 8: Wlad 10:9
Round 9: Fury 10:9
Round 10: Fury 10:9
Round 11: Draw 9:9 (Fury got a point deducted for rabbit punching)
Round 12: Wlad 10:9

Total: 116-111 Tyson Fury

Very dull fight, but Tyson Fury was brilliant here in his own way. He baffled and completely dismantled the great Klitschko and his offence. I think the most you can give Wlad is 4 rounds. It wasn't a domination tho like some people say. Fury did just enough to nick most of the rounds, statistically winning them by only 3 punches. Too bad the rematch never came into fruition.

BTW, can you imagine Manny Steward in Wlad's corner that night? He would be absolutely fuming! Chambers fight would be a light version of him comparing to this, lol.

 

I had it 116-111 as well.

 

Guty Espadas v Alex Santana Guido (flyweight title)

I saw this out there and with it in pristine condition I had to check it out. To tell you the truth, there's nothing really here to see. I gave Guido a share of round 1 and the rest to Espadas until he knocked him out in the 8th for a 70-64 score through 7 completed rounds. Espadas was a banger but Guido threw punches that were really only big slaps. I was curious how he got there and his brief record only shows one decent win. A 7th round stoppage of contender Valentin Martinez. Man, Martinez couldn't have had much left at that point. But it is what it is. Again, give this fight a pass.

 

Jimmy Young v Ossie Ocasio I (10 rounds - 5 point must)

Round 1: 5-5 Even
Round 2: 5-4 Ocasio
Round 3: 5-4 Ocasio
Round 4: 5-5 Even
Round 5: 5-4 Ocasio
Round 6: 5-4 Young
Round 7: 5-4 Ocasio
Round 8: 5-4 Young
Round 9: 5-5 Even
Round 10: 5-4 Young

Total: 47-46 Ocasio (actual scores: 46-45, 46-44 both for Ocasio and a 47-43 for Young. Ocasio on a split)

Although nothing earth-shattering about this fight, I wanted to revisit it after some 45 or so years. Besides the fact that Ocasio was all wrong for Young, Jimmy still could have and should have beaten him with some effort. He did much better late in the fight because of the urgency with him clearly losing, but coming in at a sloppy 220 exacerbated the style advantage Ocasio had. And by that I mean, Ossie didn't have to worry about Jimmy's punch, although he could smack sharply, just not heavily, and his hustle and bustle style allowed him to fire those fast combos without worrying about anything major coming in return. It really was a perfect storm for Ocasio. Again, without that effort from Jimmy.

 

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury I

114-112 Tyson Fury

Wilder Rounds: 4, 6, 9, 12
Fury rounds: 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11

 

Isaac Cruz vs Angel Fierro

Gave this a watch after it being recommended in as one of the FOTY in the main forum. So glad I did. Feel there were a couple of more drab affairs I watched with Cruz previously but this felt a return to form with thanks to the perfect dance partner. I didn’t score the fight, I’m ok with a close card either way. Ashame the rematch didn’t happen, it would be a treat to see them re run it. Round 3 is in contention for round of the year and I can definitely validate for the fight on the whole.

Would love to see this again, or personally Cruz visiting to fight one of our UK contenders, the general feeling is this weight might just be too much for him at the top level, but the name Pitbull certainly fits.

 

Samuel Peter vs Wladimir Klitschko I

Round 1: Wlad 10:9
Round 2: Wlad 10:9
Round 3: Wlad 10:9
Round 4: Wlad 10:9
Round 5: Peter 10:7 (2 official knockdowns)
Round 6: Wlad 10:9
Round 7: Wlad 10:9
Round 8: Wlad 10:9
Round 9: Wlad 10:9
Round 10: Peter 10:8 (1 knockdown)
Round 11: Wlad 10:9
Round 12: Wlad 10:9

Total: 115-110 Wladimir Klitschko

This was a much better fight than I remembered. Yes, Klitschko was holding, but wether it was excesive is debatable. Even the HBO commentating panel was devided in their opinions. George Foreman noticed the clinching but said it was smart, Larry Merchant didn't see anything wrong with it, but Harold Lederman absolutely hated it and said Wlad should have gotten a point or two deducted. On the other hand Peter should have points deducted for rabbit punching. Overall, Wlad controlled the action despite some scary moments. He was agressive, his jab was on point and his straight right was nearly perfect. Peter had a hell of a chin tho. Klitschko showed excellent footwork at time too. He was also defensively responsible, blocking a lot of left hooks with his right glove. I personally feel like 2 knockdowns in the fifth round were after the shots on the back of the head and shouldn't have been counted. This was, in my opinion, a right of passage kinda fight for Wlad. The fight that made him the man he was after. Just like Tyson had to go through Tillis, Ali had to go through Doug Jones or Lewis had to go through Ray Mercer. He beat his weaknesses in this one.

 

Jimmy Young v Ossie Ocasio II

Round 1: 10-9 Young
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Ocasio
Round 4: 10-9 Young
Round 5: 10-9 Young
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Young
Round 8: 10-9 Young
Round 9: 10-9 Ocasio
Round 10: 10-9 Young

Total: 98-94 Young (actual scores: 97-95 X 3 all for Ocasio)

For nostalgia's sake I wanted to wrap up their second fight as well. Young got himself in better shape this time but the style was still troublesome for Jimmy. There wasn't a lot in these rounds but I felt Jimmy was the one doing the fighting. Ocasio simply wasn't as active in this bout as he was in their first meeting. Commentator Keith Jackson made a big deal about Ocasio catching Young in the 8th round with a left hook and him claiming Jimmy was hurt. Jimmy wasn't hurt. It looked more like he got a royal poke in the eye with him blinking. The Puerto Rican crowd went nuts, as they did with everything Ocasio threw. But, although Ocasio would have been poised to take the round with a good follow-up, he did absolutely nothing to follow-up and I gave the round to Young for his previous work in the round. So perceptions can be rife in any fight. If there was one thing about this fight that automatically makes me suspicious was the fact that Don King and Richie Giachetti were ringside scouting Larry Holmes' next title opponent. So why did Young's management agree to fight in Puerto Rico with all three Puerto Rican judges with a title shot hanging in the balance? Doesn't seem conducive to success, does it? I think King/Giachetti were quite happy. I wouldn't think they would want Holmes fighting a spoiler like Young, even though I believe Holmes would win. It might have been a stinker. Again, unless you're interested in a bit of history, this fight isn't a barn-burner.

 

Carlos Ortiz v Sugar Ramos I (lightweight title)

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-8 Ramos (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Ortiz
Round 4: 10-9 Ortiz
Round 5: Bedlam - Conn stops the fight due to a bad cut on Ramos' left eye

Total through 4 completed rounds: 38-38 Even (actual scores: there is controversy here as well. Conn had it 37-37 and the Mexican judge had Ramos ahead 40-38, but boxrec has judge Frankie Van with a 38-37 for Ramos, but Van, who was commentating on the delayed telecast said he had it 38-37 for Ortiz)

I know the story on this one and have seen clips over the years but when I saw it in its entirety I wanted to see it. Ortiz was well on his way to victory with Ramos cut and landing that hard jab and some beauties of combos. But who could have foreseen this. Conn could not get that Mexican doctor in the ring to check out Ramos and had to take matters into his own hands. Under the bombardment of debris being thrown at all individuals in the ring, Conn and Ortiz departed and they were not going to let him leave with that title. They grabbed a Mexican referee and ordered Carlos back to the ring - which of course Ortiz refused as well as Conn. And then tried awarding the title to Ramos. Unbelievable.

 

Started in on @Saintpat 's Ultimate Viewers Guide tonight and settled back to watch...

Mark 'Too Sharp' Johnson v Leon Salazar

Oh, man, did these two go at it. After the first round I said to myself, 'This is real Hagler-Hearns type of stuff'. And in the second round the commentators echoed my musings. Rounds 2 and 3 were similar ending with Salazar retiring between rounds with an injury. Laughed me arse off when co-commentator Tom Kelly said, 'Johnson is all over Salazar like a cheap suit.' Great line for a great fight.

 

You can get fajitas in San Antonio — they were invented there! (Or maybe not … depends on what version of their origin story you choose to believe.)

 

Watched another explosive fight today. All I can say is Wow!

Frankie Liles v Tim Littles II (super middleweight title)

Round 1: 10-8 Liles (scores a knockdown - Littles is given a reprieve as the bell for the round rings a minute early, preventing Liles from following up)
Round 2: 10-7 Liles (Liles scores a knockdown and Littles is docked a point for either hitting on the back of the head or hitting when the man was down)
Round 3: Littles scores a knockdown but then Liles drops and stops him

Total through 2 completed rounds: 20-15 Liles (actual scores: 20-15, 20-16 and a 20-17 all for Liles)

If this fight went any further I would have needed an abacus to score properly. Again, wow!

 

'Prince' Charles Williams v Merqui Sosa I (vacant NABF light heavyweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Sosa
Round 2: 10-9 Williams
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Sosa
Round 5: 10-9 Sosa
Round 6: 10-9 Sosa
Round 7: 10-9 Sosa
Fight stopped between rounds and scored a tech. draw due to the facial damage that both fighters incurred.

Total through 7 completed rounds: 69-65 Sosa (actual scores: 69-64, 69-64 and 69-63 all for Sosa)

Strangely, I never saw either of their fights and am looking to make amends. A fantastic fight. Williams' counters were so sharp and precise but invariably, he always seemed to end up on the ropes where Sosa bludgeoned him throughout. Sosa never won pretty - he just never had that style - but although he was well ahead on all cards, those Williams counters added up on his right eye, which turned grisly, while Williams' left eye had bled throughout. Quite unique in stopping a fight due to both fighters injuries. But again, great fight.