Are we in a 'Golden Era' for British heavyweight Boxing?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by pow, Dec 2, 2025 at 9:42 PM.


  1. chrisfinch

    chrisfinch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fringe for me, yeah. I like Wardley, and don’t mind Dubois but neither are/were proper world champions. Just belt holders with titles that Usyk was stripped of.

    Not to copy everyone else, but I’d have to go the mid-90s as being way better. You had Lewis, arguably the greatest British boxer of the modern era, a national treasure in Bruno, and then Hide and Akinwande as a standout four. And below that your likes of Francis, Welch, Oyebola, Williams etc.

    I’d also argue that your mid-late 2000s was more fun - if not higher quality. Skelton, Sprott, Williams and Audley fighting regularly on free TV, early days of Chisora, then Fury and Price coming up as the next generation and that rivalry, and the prospect of Haye coming up from Cruiserweight. All fizzled out of course, but there was a lot of excitement and potential around then.
     
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  2. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great picks,

    Lennox Lewis v Tyson Fury - Lenox Lewis all day long
    Frank Bruno v Anthony Joshua - 50/50
    Herbie Hide v Daniel Dubois - Great fight and 50/50
    Gary Mason v Fabio Wardley - War
    Henry Akinwande v Lawrence Okolie - Horrible match, up battle of the huggers

    You also had Bugner, Welch, Oyebola, Francis, Williams, Michael Holden and Clifton Williams but any one time in the 90s you had maybe 2–3 Brits in the world top 20. Compare that to now, you got 7 Brits in the top 20 at the same time. That depth never existed in the 90s, not even close.
     
  3. Noel857

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    Fury retired
    Joshua past it
    The rest are only rated so highly because the division is crap
    Being top of a pile of **** Doesn`t make it golden
     
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  4. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis is obviously stands alone as an all-time great. Bruno was the people’s champ here, but let’s be honest, most of the world saw him as a bit of a joke figure. I’d actually say Joshua has had a far bigger global impact on the sport than Bruno. Akinwande was one of the worst heavyweight title reigns you’ll ever see – guy clinched his way to a disqualification loss. Hardly a golden era benchmark.
     
  5. HypeMaster

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    It's not crap at all

    Do you even know what a crap division is. A crap division is like what Middleweight and Welterweight are right now.

    Usyk (arguably the GOAT, p4p 1, greatest fighter of this generation, future HOFer)
    Fury (future HOFer)
    Joshua (Future HOFer)
    Wardley, Dubois, Kabayel, Itauma, Hrgovic, Parker, Zhang,

    That is a strong af top 10. I don't care what your nostalgia biased ass thinks
     
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  6. boxberry92

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    The only reason the British heavyweights stand out so much right now, especially in the rankings – is because the global depth just isn’t there. The American scene in particular is arguably the weakest it has ever been.

    Compare that to the 90s when you had Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, Mercer, Briggs, Morrison, McCall, even Holmes for a while – and in general far more quality the world over. The depth internationally was miles stronger, and the talent pool was stacked from top to bottom.

    In contrast, the current generation is right up there with the weakest eras in heavyweight history. The Brits look good largely because the rest of the world has fallen off, not because this era is overflowing with elite fighters.

    Whereas if you listed the top 20 heavyweights from 2010 to now, you could arguably fit 7–8–9 British fighters into that list and they wouldn’t look out of place at all, and that tells you everything you need to know about how shallow the global scene has become.

    I think it has more to do with the rise of British promoters on the global scene than it does with the actual quality of our fighters, and just how much they were pushed and spotlighted when the belts were in British hands.
     
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  7. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no denying the late 80's and 90's was a golden era but outside that peak it gets pretty thin. The Klitschko years were the worst in the divisions history. Right now doesn't compare to the 1990's, but it’s the most competitive the division’s been in 20 years.
     
  8. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Fair enough it thats is your opinion but obviouly i disagree
     
  9. Heisenberg

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    I’d say AJ, Joyce, Chisora, Allen, Whyte and Clarke are all one loss, even one fight from retirement. Fury IS retired (cough cough). All the previous era in my opinion.

    There’s interesting fights to be made, Riakphore, Adelayde and Dubois would be fun clashes. But in all fairness, I only really see Itauma as an heir apparent at world level. Obviously Wardley has world class power but he can’t dine out on that much longer.

    I’ve seen and heard good things about Pat Brown and expect him to box the winner of Hedges v Zorro at cruiserweight for the English and British early next year. How long before he moves up to heavyweight I have no idea.
     
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  10. boxingscience

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    I wouldn't say this is a golden era. You got both the stand out british heavyweights in Fury and Joshua on their way out. The only real prospect at the moment who could achieve legendary status on that kind of level is Moses Itauma, and he's still pretty green at the moment. You got tough british heavyweights who will make decent fights for the fans to watch, such as wardley etc, but that's about it. Moses will likely smoke them all in the next couple of years.
     
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