Is Usyk suffering from Canelo syndrome?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by themostoverrated, Dec 3, 2025 at 6:55 AM.


  1. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

    563
    661
    Feb 9, 2022
    After fighting the likes of Joshua, Fury and Dubois, unified heavyweight champion Usyk has expressed a desire to fight Deontay Wilder, a washed-up fighter who has a poor reputation when it comes to taking big fights. This isn't the first time we are witnessing this phenomenon. Following his unification of the super heavyweight division and an unsuccessful challenge of Dimitry Bivol at 175, Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez was accused of picking 'soft' targets for his following fights - washed-up Golovkin, John Ryder, Jermell Charlo, Jaime Manguia, Edgar Berlanga, William Scull and former undisputed welterweight champ Terrence 'Bud' Crawford. The last fight did not quite follow the script that was written for Canelo, but none of these fights was what the boxing fanbase had demanded. Is Usyk trying to follow the same pattern now? Avoiding Wardley and the other young, hungry dogs? Or is it that he has nothing left to prove? Or is it a smart investment?
     
    Overhand94 and Ph33rknot like this.
  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

    30,895
    37,865
    Jul 24, 2004
    Not even a close comparison. Far from it. Canelo has been picking his opponents for years. Usyk has fought title holders and top boxers since he left the CW division except for a couple guys as he dipped his toes into the HW waters. He has 1 maybe 2 more fights till retirement; Canelo was picking during his prime years.

    All this criticism has come about because Usyk is being more businesslike in his last couple fights. Make the most profitable bouts I'd recommend then Walk away. Is Wilder a cherry pick? Sure, but it would make more money than a Wardley fight if it was in the US.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,342
    17,314
    Jan 13, 2021
    Canelo had Mayweather Syndrome. Lewis vacated the belts when Ruiz and Byrd were his mandatories to fight a worn out Tyson.
     
    Blacc Jesus, HolDat and crixus85 like this.
  4. Csonnyliston

    Csonnyliston Sam Langford P4P GOAT Full Member

    683
    932
    Feb 25, 2020
    No, unlike Canelo, he is OLD! He's like 1-2 fights away from retiring with a HoF Career and no questionable wins, with a much more accomplished amateur record.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    48,094
    28,067
    Oct 23, 2011
    "Hey Oleksandr we want you fight Fury end of 2026 can you wait that long" - No
    "Hey Oleksandr how about we give you your typical flat rate $20m to fight someone easy then" - Yes sure
    "Hey Oleksandr how about Joe Parker? you can fight anyone it doesn't matter really" - Yes
    "Hey Oleksandr he got chinned because he's overrated by another overrated fighter in Wardley" - Give me Deontay Wilder

    Getting paid the same either way. Belt dropping left right and centre because they're hot garbage regardless.

    Usyk on paper should retire....just turns out that with the right buisness moves he can make another $50-70m in what will be his final year in boxing....can't blame him. He's already done it all.
     
    TheShellofKell likes this.
  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,346
    9,541
    Jul 11, 2012
    Yes
    He has less career fights
    career pro bouts: Canelo 68, Usyk 24.
    but likely has the = mileage because of his age
    & amateur experience.
     
    Ph33rknot likes this.
  7. PrimoGT

    PrimoGT Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,633
    1,573
    Jul 20, 2025
    Kabayel > Zhang > Wilder
    Wardley > Parker > Wilder

    That's four "hot garbage" fighters who are clear levels above Wilder, based on form.
     
    Overhand94 likes this.
  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    48,094
    28,067
    Oct 23, 2011
    All above him but all more dangerous although Usyk on form smashes them all...so he will go for the easiest who they will pay him for...in this case Wilder.

    It's all about who king Turki will allow.
     
    Ph33rknot likes this.
  9. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,605
    2,761
    Sep 25, 2020
    Exactly. De la Hoya has openly admitted to using Floyd's blueprint for Canelo's career. Canelo got the hang of it lol
     
    MarkusFlorez99 likes this.
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,339
    38,081
    Jul 4, 2014
  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

    5,897
    2,607
    Mar 24, 2005
    This is not the best fight for Usyk IMO, as he could have gone for a more challenging opponent. That being said, Wilder is a very dangerous opponent who can KO almost anyone with a single punch. Who did Canelo fight like that?
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    29,454
    15,367
    Dec 6, 2008
    This is worse than anyone Canelo fought. Canelo didn't fight any completely shot fighters.
     
  13. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

    2,249
    601
    Feb 6, 2014
    Is Usyk trying to follow the same pattern now?
    No.
    Avoiding Wardley and the other young, hungry dogs?
    Avoiding is far from a suitable descriptor for the last half of Usyk's career. His resume is as good as any.
    Or is it that he has nothing left to prove?
    He really doesn't but with a few big fights and getting on the right side of Sheikhs, the potential money to be made will go a long way in post-war Ukraine. He may do a Vitali/Manny thing and get political.
    Or is it a smart investment?
    For sure. I wouldn't begrudge him an exhibition against Jake Paul (provided he's not a pancake after Joshua if that happens) at this point, a trot out against Wilder just for the style matchup/optics could be fun.
     
  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,697
    7,116
    Feb 27, 2024
    Nah, he's suffering from Holmes & Lewis syndrome, who ducked mandatories to take easier fights.
     
    Overhand94 likes this.
  15. rolzone

    rolzone Member Full Member

    441
    570
    Jul 2, 2021
    Could be down to the type of camp he thinks he can do going forward. His previous camps are know to be crazy intense. He's getting old.