Reports that Itauma reportedly going to take Okolie over Gassiev

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  1. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What you see is in the media is 100% what you get with Moses. Very genuine lad. At 21 years of age and coming to prominence at a time when the previous era is wrapping up, there’s zero point rushing him just for the critics. Good learning fights now against guys who will on paper give him rounds and prepare him for a decent reign. From what I’ve seen, Franklin, Gassiev and Okolie all offer him something different but none of them come close to beating him.
     
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  2. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    same. Franklin and his team couldn’t believe it either.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    I am not sure about that first sentence.

    Okolie was a beltholder, beat Glowacki, who was shot, and not that great in the first place, and lost it to CBS, who is nothing special.

    Gassiev was a UNIFIED beltholder who beat a couple of the hihgest ranked cruisers ever in Lebedec and Wlodarczyk, and a good one in Dorticos.


    At heavy, Gassiev's win over Pulev, even a 44 year old version, is arguably better than Lerena, who himself has accomplished nothing.

    I am sorry, but we have to stop with the comparable nonsense. Gassiev is well doing better, and is a year younger.
     
  4. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't rate a 44 year old Pulev as better than Lerena. What has he done recently? He also lost to Wallin

    Rozanski is a decent win with wins over Ugonah, Spizka, and Babic
     
  5. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually agree, they shouldn't rush him, just wish they would have him fight more often, especially with these short fights.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Agree completely, the hype behind the thoroughly unproven Itauma is out of control. At least lets see how he takes a punch or 5, if he makes it that far, before declaring him the next big thing.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Next batch of HW prospects is looking pretty grim. In terms of eye test he's the best by far, has money behind him etc. Ofc limeys are going to overhype him. That's what they do with every hyped prospect.
     
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  8. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dude is like 21

    Not issues with slow and steady
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Lerena has never had a decent victory, and gassiev's cruiser wins blow Okolie's out of the water. Okolie lost to CBS, which is worst.

    None of those guys you mentioned compare to Wlodarczyk, Lebedev, Dorticos. Titanic fail. Not on the table.
     
  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. He should have fought 6x+ this year against uber drivers and dildo salesmen on the undercard of every major fight. Why did they waste his camp for Whyte? Once that quick blowout happened, should have immediately booked him a fight on the very next DAZN fight night, against any random journeyman.

    how a young Mike Tyson was handled is the right way for Ituama.

    it’s also what should have been done with Wardley, now he’s 20 fights too early to be where he is.
     
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  11. Chitown

    Chitown Active Member Full Member

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    Who else even is there? Jalolov?
     
  12. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gassievs heavyweight resume is no better than Okolies. For whatever reason he hasn't done anything since moving up. His cruiserweight resume a decade ago may not be relevant today.

    Based on his cruiserweight resume one would expect him to do well at heavyweight but he hasn't and even managed to lose to Wallin who then lost to Chisora
     
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  13. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Everyone overhypes him - it's not just Brits.

    But that's what happens when you get a narrative going behind a big hitting kid - everyone wants to see a destructive talent that's going to bulldoze through the division, it's great fun to watch... So people become invested in it, become fans, all before anything is proven - and even beyond the point where the evidence shows it was manufactured, often.


    Everyone overhyped Jalolov, too - they wanted to be onto a certain thing and enough people were hyping him as a cast iron guaranteed future champion... Before he'd fought anything approaching international level journeymen.


    Hype is always ridiculous, and it'll always happen.
    People just aren't willing to wait for the proof and enjoy the journey - they're desperate to be mystic ****ing meg.
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Hrgovic was the next best thing since sliced bread, and got turned into burnt toast. Yet some fans still hype him to be the future of the sport.
    And personally, I dont even mind it too much. I am happy that fans are supporting boxers and showing genuine enthusiasm in their careers.
     
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  15. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I think my issue is that plenty seem to jump from one overhyped prospect to the next the moment the bubble bursts...

    I don't mind genuine fans following boxers they have an interest in and sticking by them when they lose.

    That's the bit that tells you who's a genuinely interested fan and who's just trying to jump on the hype and claim they can see talent before it's possible to know who's going to truly make it (eg: Itauma right now)...
     
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