Reports are Wilder eyeing Gassiev while negotiating for Usyk

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Im glad youre still here BE.
     
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    We just have to do something about these other people now. Because they need help more.

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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    It has some historical standing. Beating some of the best cruisers ever is better than beating absolute nobodies at heavy.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sadly I agree. Wilder losing to Parker and Big Bang Zhang tells me he’s completely shot and that was years ago. Gassiev washes him.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ortiz was 38 not early 40s u lying sack of ****
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Are we talking about his fight with Jack Sharkey again? :)
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oooh Ortiz was actually 38 not 40 :rolleyes::risas3:
     
  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fact that Gassiev was able to beat Lebedev, Wlodarczyk and Dorticos but not HW fringe contender Wallin doesn't strengthen cruiser's credibility.

    Vitali didn't beat many top fighters; his wins aren't much better than Wilder's (if at all) but he still has a much higher standing than Gassiev, as does Wilder.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    No one said it did. What was said, and what is true, is that Gassiev beat fighters with historical standing, and Wilder has not.
     
  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mchunu beating Chambers and Hunter beating Bakole don't help heavyweights credibility. Let alone Usyk beating top heavyweights.

    Gassiev Wallin alone has little bearing on the merit of cruiserweight
     
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  11. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jake Kilrain, Sharkey came around a bit past Ortiz's prime years
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

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    He really should have just hung em up after that beating Tom Heeney put on him.
     
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  13. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The money was too good and he came back for that PBC fight against Gunboat Smith
     
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  14. Veerbone

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    Give me Gassiev in similar fashion to the Pulev fight. Wilder paws around and throws a few rights into the tight high guard and somewhere in the middle rounds Gassiev lands a bomb that stops the show.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I rate Hunter more highly than the vast majority of cruisers and higher than Gassiev because of his performances at HW, he also put on a stronger showing vs Usyk than Gassiev. But very few cruisers who moved to HW have equalled or bettered clear wins over Kuzmin and Bakole and a draw with Povetkin.
     
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