If Wilder KO's Usyk, is he one of the greatest heavyweights of all time?

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  1. Yes, ATG

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  2. No, lucky punch/fix

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  3. Maybe

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough but if it is "borderline impossible", how much would you bet on Usyk at 1/10 odds?
     
  2. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What can I say, only the most foolish are still being fooled by Usyk's antics at this point
    Fighting Wilder is just the easiest money on the table that has yet to be tapped
     
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  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In 14 months he fought undefeated lineal + WBC champion Fury, Fury and belt holder No.1 contender Dubois. He wasn't "ducking" Joey 12.
     
  4. Rick’s Piano

    Rick’s Piano Member Full Member

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    an all time great? no lol. but a real boost to his legacy proving he'd always have a punchers chance even against the greatest....BUT that wont happen so lets not live in fantasy land. In reality, Wilder is found out against anyone with decent boxing skills
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, I like patterns. Usyk likes his patterns too.
    Let's stick with "14 months":

    In the last 14 months, Usyk rematched the same two fighters he comfortably beat in the preceding 14 months.

    Here is another pattern:

    We were told he would fight the winner of Parker v Dubois. Usyk had other ideas. We were told he would fight Parker next. Usyk had other ideas. We were told he would fight the winner of Parker v Wardley. Usyk had other ideas.

    ;)
     
  6. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    No. It would be a hell of a feat, and likely the definition of 'it only takes one punch', when talking about heavyweights, but it would likely be a 'lucky' shot so to speak and I'd say its more likely if Wilder KOd Usyk and they fought 2 more times Usyk would win the other 2.
     
  7. Payback87

    Payback87 Active Member Full Member

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    Have you seen Wilder fight recently ? He is completely done.
     
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  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Usyk rematched"

    Rematches frequently go the other way and these were the biggest money and highest status fights available by far and probably the two most dangerous, especially on paper. Beltless Joey 12 was not a dangerous fight (no KO power at any serious level, let alone for Usyk, far inferior pointfighter), nor was he in a position to fight Usyk due to Dubois' pull out. Parker then blew it by getting stopped by Wardley. If Wardley beats Chisora and Fury (let's say), it's highly likely Usyk will fight him in what will be a much bigger money + status fight than is possible vs Wardley at the moment and he'd get more credit too, being 40+ against a multiple defence Fury-conquering champ. But no doubt after he beats Wardley he'd be accused of "ducking" three other guys in the meantime. If Fury beats Wardley then that's an ever bigger fight still, regardless of how you feel about rematches.
     
  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    No but wouldn't make him a goat
     
  10. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Funny to see some here still believe in usyk . Incredible
     
  11. HyperionAlpha

    HyperionAlpha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk.....will make Wilder look old and bad. Skill sets....levels....I would give Wilder about a .03% chance of a split decision loss.
     
  12. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't particularly like Wilder, but this would be a pretty sweet upset. It's very disappointing Usyk is taking this fight, so a cherry pick gone wrong would be a poetic justice. If Usyk was fighting 4 times a year, I could let an easy touch slide, but he fights once a year. We fans should not be accepting of bad fights like this from a champ that is barely active.
    If Wilder were to win, he's still not cracking the top 10 all time, and I think Usyk would also be dropped out of consideration for top 10.
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has no chance, and even if he won he doesn't crack the top 20, I'd put him above joshua though. At that point he might be in the same position as Fury all time
     
  14. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he would. The only real criticism of Wilder’s career is he doesn’t have an elite win on his resume. He brought excitement to the sport. Is arguably considered one of the biggest punchers of all time. He had a long title reign. If he beat Usyk and became undisputed (I think Usyk is still undisputed) then he’s done enough. I can’t see anyway possible that happens though lol.
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Beltless Joey" is a former world champion that gave Wilder a one-sided beatdown. Yet Usyk wants to fight the loser of those two?

    Quack.
     
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