Which Fighter Throughout History Beats Tyson

He wasn't just a tad bit undisciplined, he was a lot, and it was due to the turmoils in his personal life.

 

Neither stands a chance. Tyson is a stylistic nightmare for Ali and Holmes, and Holyfield was roided to the gills and he beat a washed up Tyson.

 

No he wasn't. Prime has got nothing to do with age. Tyson's prime ended when he split with the Catskill team.

Tyson had already achieved everything, Douglas had not. Their motivation was far different. That match did not mean as much to Tyson as it did to Douglas.

 

So you’re saying Mike couldn’t get it up?

 

Just because his heyday is over doesn't mean he wasn't still an elite boxer who could beat fighters like Ruddock, who was certainly stronger than Douglas, or dominate a fighter at the same level as Stewart.

I don't believe you or Mamdela were so stupid that you couldn't understand that. We can disagree, but you don't have to pretend to be clueless morons every time. I admit that the White Bomber goes too far in uncritically favoring Tyson, and you go even further in hating him. It's kind of amusing to watch, bouncing that ball from one wall to the other, but it doesn't bring anyone any pride and lowers the quality of this forum. Best regards

 

Holmes never dropped his hand after the jab when they actually fought. Which is why none of the knockdowns that occurred fit that scenario.

 

So Douglas facing the death of his mother and the weight of the promise he did to her right before the bout does not count as a turmoil in his personal life? oh poor me Tyson must've been awfully hard to **** girls and sniff some meth. **** off White Bomber.

 

No version of Tyson is beating Liston

 

He did multiple times. Tyson wasn't in a position to take advantage. Holmes mostly shelved the jab the first two rounds. That's telling. He more pushed his hand out and tried to use it to keep Tyson off. The last two rounds he threw a few dedicated jabs but he was still a bit sparing. Tyson landed quite a few right hands at the end, and tho they weren't over jabs Holmes left hand certainly didn't block or parry them.

 

Tyson was only able to knock Holmes down the first time because old Larry stopped moving and stood there like a statue. In his prime, he often jabbed, using lateral movement, so Tyson would not just be able to bore in and clock him.

 

Tyson would use the same blueprint and await his moments. Holmes didn't dance all night.

 

And Tyson's punch output significantly decreased as the rounds went by.

 

When he had to settle in it did. Notably against Tucker and Bonecrusher who won about 4 rounds between them out of 24. He smartly paced himself after his early fury didn't get them out of there and won round after round. If they decided to actually man up and try and win the fight he would have responded accordingly. You can't just whale away when the other guy isn't trying to win, is big and aiming to survive.

 

I agree. But, I still believe that Tyson needs to get Holmes early; If not, the odds tip in Larry's favor. A victory is not a foregone conclusion for either man, which is what makes this hypothetical prime matchup so intriguing.

 

I think it would be very favorable but possibly not the be all and end all. People forget that he didn't fade against Tucker and Bonecrusher. Their efforts get overstated because it was such a shock that people went the distance with him. He was a victim of his own success, if you like. Smith and Tucker barely won any of the last 6 rounds of their fights with Tyson. I think Tucker won 2 of the last 8 rounds. Smith won one round all night from memory. So what i am saying is Tyson could potentially win a decision.

I totally agree it's an open fight. Either man could pull it off.