Joe Frazier vs. Larry Holmes’ title opponents?

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  1. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Active Member Full Member

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    Let’s imagine Joe Frazier facing Holmes’ title opponents. How would he fare? Surely Holmes had a stylistic advantage when it comes to longevity, but we are just talking about his title run, not his impressive late career (Mercer, Holyfield etc.).

    Holmes was already 28 when he fought Norton, while Frazier was 24 when he fought Mathis for the title. Personally, I’d probably start with the 24 year old Frazier taking on Norton and go from there. If someone thinks Norton would have the edge here, they could also start with Frazier at 26, from his Ellis fight onwards.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier vs Shavers would be interesting as Joe was prone to knockdowns early in the fight. How would he fare against awkward Berbick? Battle of the left hookers against Cooney might have been a thing of beauty too. Would Witherspoon cause him problems? Would he break Carl Williams after 7 years of defeinding his title? Overall I'm not sure Frazier would be able to withstain 7 years of fighting the style he fought and not being at least a bit worn out.
     
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  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At his best Joe blitzes all Holmes defenses but Frazier had a short prime and style that doesn’t age well. Taking the same time frame he’d have to drop fights to maybe Witherspoon or maybe even Carl Williams after an extended reign (even though Williams is a sucker for the left hook). Cooney would be interesting as well. Joe would trash Snipes, Norton, and Weaver imo.
     
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  4. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At his best he would be a favorite against Spinks too. But after 7 years? I don't know.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Beats most of them .
    Has a 50/50 war with Norton and Witherspoon.
    Could be in for a shock against Cooney or Shaver's but I expect him to win.
    Think he struggles with Spinks stylistically and by then he's probably ageing fast.
     
  6. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A big problem with Fraziers career is going 2-4 against Ali/Foreman/Bugner with no KOs and not facing Norton, Jimmy Young, Lyle or Shavers. And of course Holmes himself.

    Besides Norton and Shavers the toughest of Holmes's opponents for Frazier to beat would be Cooney, Witherspoon, Leroy Jones and Snipes. Carl Williams, Smith and Bey are a little more soft touches Frazier could probably blast out but they are imposing physical matchups nontheless. I think Frazier is an awful matchup for Tyson.

    I can see Frazier beating all of Holmes's opponents theres no one here he "can't beat" it just won't be easy. Frazier might even be able to improve by beating Spinks(so no rematch) and Tyson. But if Frazier runs the table its going to end up being a shorter table. During his title years Holmes went 3,3,4,3,2,4,1,3. In Fraziers 8 comparable years he went 3,2,2,1,2,2,2,2. 23-16. So I do not think Frazier has it in him to go on the Louis/Ali/Holmes/Wlad run. It would take Frazier over 10 years to get there even if we give him all these fights. Even before the Ali and Foreman damage Frazier was simply not a 3 fight a year guy.
     
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