Is Calzaghe's win over Jeff Lacy more impressive than Crawford's win over Canelo

Ha!

I’m being trolled.

 

Absurd hatred?

Really??

If I’m not being trolled, you should be worried about your own well-being.

Kessler was never a brilliant boxer, and was never levels above any version of Canelo.

 

is this a ginger spice joke?

 

Ha!

Come on man.

I liked Kessler. But he was never great. He never beat any great fighters.

He was not levels above Canelo. That’s ridiculous.

Also, I’d seriously question you thinking that Carl Froch was an ATG fighter.

HOF if you wish. But not ATG.

It’s even debatable if Joe and Andre are true ATG’s.

 

fair to a point but the fights coming up before the calzaghe fight were pretty amazing wins the problem was that almost all of lacy's title fights his opponents were in a career cul-de-sac. vanderpool was the canadian roy jones, had a good but sluggish go against hopkins, and lacy took him apart. retired soon after.
shieka, ESPNS fav super middleweight who "looked like DLH and fought like Chavez" or was just a good looking amatuer who was not as talented as was previously thought.
you had Lacy absolutely obliterating Robin Ried. calzaghe's closest fight, long time world champion and contender, should have a win agaisnt ottke....destroyed.

now....im not saying he is in any hall of fame. BUUUT, at the time he was beating former champions, great and solid gatekeepers and up and coming prospects.

it isnt the calzaghe loss that exposed and destroyed his career. his left shoulder seperated after the tsypko fight and his lost his jab and left hook. which for him was like being a 'one legged man in a ass kicking contest'. had he been able to keep his power and speed in his left hand he might have been able to be part of the super 6 or get a mikkel fight. but it was too late and too soon for him. also...he said himself that he wanted to get a title at 160. which i think was just a way to keep away from hopkins.

though saying this all. his skills were primitivish. overhand right was bowled like anything. his defence was poor and static, he actually seemed to improve when he moved up to 175 he slipped better and was better when he fought more side on than being square on.

 

I guess it sort of depends on how you look at it

Lacy was a young, undefeated titleholder with lots of promise and punching power. The fight was a big deal at the time and turned into a whitewash coming out party type of performance for Calzaghe that spring-boarded him into huge fights. Not very different from say Ricky Hatton who was undefeated and unknown in the US but had a big domestic following and had a breakout performance against Tzyu and parlayed that into bigger fights in the US

I think its obvious that Canelo is a greater fighter than Jeff Lacy, he has accomplished way more and would probably beat Jeff Lacy. That said, Canelo was past his best when Crawford beat him. Crawford did come up in weight and that was a big deal and he had a dominant performance as well, way more dominant than I had expected.

I still lean toward Crawford's win being more impressive and more important

 

Of course Calzaghes win was the more impressive

Lacy would likely have gone on to be the greatest American SMW if he hadn't run into late in career Calzaghe
Taking the amount of fights Lacy had had when facing Calzaghe, compared to other American SMWs that are remembered
Lacy overall had fought at a higher level than all of the others, had more World title fights and wins than
Jones, Toney, Nunn, Brewer, Ward, Liles, Mitchell, Johnson, Holmes,
To give you an example

I think the point has been made and requires no further discussion

 

It’s hard for me to rate Canelo due to the corrupt judges and referees he benefited from throughout his career.

 

Don't insult the Spice Girls by compairing them to Canelita please..

 

Yes, Calzone's win was more dominant, but it was a strange bout, with the referee breaking them apart almost 3 times per minutes

 

Much of Canelo's "greatness" is a result of his 168 reign.... Froch had a much stronger 168 reign than Canelo... Carl Froch earned the right to be called an ATG at 168, and he earned it the hard way, facing the best competition he could at every turn.