Can George Foreman survive 12 rounds with Oleksandr Usyk

Could Foreman survive? Of course.

Do I think he would? Nah.

I think Usyk takes him deep and drowns him as the difference in pace and conditioning manifests itself.

I've seen more evidence that George's gas tank lets him down in a matchup like this than I have evidence that Usyk's durability and defense fails him.

 

Usyk has never been knocked down even though he has fought bigger and arguably stronger guys than Foreman, but Foreman will knock him out? A couple reasons why that wouldn't happen: 1) Foreman is too slow. Maybe if this was Tyson where the speed of his punches catches Usyk off-guard I could understand that. 2) People get knocked out because they are tired. Usyk is the most well-conditioned HW currently and is one of the most conditioned of all-time.

 

People say that yet I personally think Usyk looked the best he ever did in the 1st Joshua fight especially when compared to the Chisora fight where he was lighter. And don't really see some fall off because he got heavier that can't be attributed to getting older.

 

Can George Foreman survive against Usyk? Well, I'll tell you...

In my opinion, I think... that is to say, it really seems that.. let me put it this way...

Pardon me for a moment.




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Usyk hasn’t fought anyone stronger than Foreman. That’s just nonsense. He’s fought bigger guys but not stronger guys.

The question isn’t whether Foreman would beat Usyk, it’s whether he could last 12 rounds. And based on him eating an absurd number of unanswered shots from Evander Holyfield without even looking like going down, it’s fair to assume that he survives 12 rounds with Usyk.

Usyk isn’t exactly known for his power. He’s a great fighter (no greater than Foreman though) but he’s not a KO artist. Foreman, especially the later version has the chin to cop everything that Usyk can throw at him and then some.

 

Where is the evidence for Foreman being super strong for his size when he was usually the bigger man

 

Was Frazier tired in the first Foreman fight?
Was Schmeling tired in the Louis rematch?
Was Norton tired in the Foreman fight?
Was Ruiz tired in the Tua fight?
Was Marvis Frazier tired in the Tyson fight?
Was Walcott tired in the Marciano rematch?
Was Patterson tired in the Liston fight?
I could continue but I think you get my point. Getting tired does play a role in getting knocked down (mostly because you start to drop your hands) but a KO is just a matter a good punch connecting clean on the jaw. And when you have tthe power of Foreman a KO is always a possibility.

 

George Foreman fought off a literal lion. Not a Detroit one either.

"I threw the best punch I ever threw at the lion, and it missed. I had to save my brother, so I closed my eyes, and threw with all my might. And I missed him ... but he ran to his cage. I loved that lion, but I saw him coming, and saw his teeth, and only then I realized I shouldn't have had the lion. It's like using a bad word, a person will say it at the wrong time, and only then they will know."

Imagine throwing a punch at a lion mauling someone and the Lion runs away.

 

Shows bravery and not much else. He didn't even hit the lion. I'm not sure of the argument here?

 

I'd probably put my money on Fury and Joshua being stronger. We're talking about 50 years later from when Foreman was peak. Sports science has advanced too much. Powerlifting records are being broken all the time.

 

This doesn't make sense. You sight George Foreman as evidence that heavier fighters don't necessarily hit any harder than lighter fighters? And use Evander Holyfield and Shannon Briggs as common testimony.

George Foreman was 260lbs when he fought them though lol. You can't extrapolate old Georges punches power and just stick it in the 70's to make inferences about when he was 220lbs fighting 205-215lbers.

Also that means the two biggest punchers of the 90's in Foreman and Lewis were both 250lbs-260lbs, which again doesn't help prove your point. Unless I'm just misunderstanding something.

 

I am not of the opinion that 90s Foreman hit harder than 70s Forwman. Yes, he was heavier but a lot slower. Much slower hands, could not throw combinations like his young self. Foreman was around 215-220 lbs at peak and not a small man.

we have seen a guy like Joe Parker gain 20 lbs and he isn’t hitting any harder than he did when he was lighter.

Foreman and Lewis weren’t the only big hitters. Tua was around 225 lbs at peak and up there with those guys power wise. Tyson was up there too. And his best fighting weight was less than 220.

look at Wilder. Dude was knocking people out cold weighing 215 lbs. he then put on weight and didn’t get any bigger hitting.


The fact that arguably the biggest hitter of the last decade was 215 lbs at his peak kind of debunks the narrative .

Foreman had enough feats in the 70s to demonstrate his power. Even as far as one punch power goes, I think he hits as hard as the 90s version. The added mass caused a significant difference or decline in speed. So I would rate the 70s version as more powerful.