why doesnt ruiz have a bigger knockout to win ratio when he obviously hits very hard

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  1. Usernamehere

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    isnt he just another buster douglas?
     
  2. Usernamehere

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    the joshua ruiz beat was better than the one usyk faced...

    by a mile.
     
  3. Usernamehere

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    22 wins by ko out of 35 is a hard puncher. but not as hard he actually hits, IMO. should be higher
     
  4. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who Andy?
    Hell no - that would be like calling AJ = Mike Tyson
    Nope.
     
  5. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    Ruiz and bakole are the same - got paid and lost the drive for boxing. Ruiz 1 hit wonder
     
  6. Barbary Ape

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    But I'd say it does matter how that weight is partitioned and whether it's fat or muscle. It's muscle that generates movement. That's what generates the force needed to produce acceleration, in this case the acceleration that ends up with a fist on someone's chin. The fat just comes along for the ride.

    Everything else being equal, more muscle makes for harder punches, because muscle is the only tissue (apart from a bit of elastic recoil from tendons etc) that can generate force. If you had two boxers with exactly the same technique and biomechanics but one carries another 10kg of lean mass, the heavier guy will hit harder. If you had a third who carried 10kg of extra fat... dunno, my guess is he'd fall somewhere between the two.

    Back to Ruiz, he was 122kg when he fought Ortiz and looks to me at least 30% body fat, which makes his lean mass about 85 kg. Whereas Joshua - just as an example - weighs say 115kg at maybe 9% bodyfat, for an LBM of 104 kg. I know that's an apples-to cheeseburger comparison, but it's just to emphasise that in comparison to some bigger boys, Ruiz has not got a huge amount of LBM to generate knockout force. Like another poster said, he's a natural LHW.
     
  7. ubareem

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    AJ's more around 12-13% bodyfat. If AJ cut down to 9% he'd probably weigh 225-230 lb.

    If Ruiz cut down to cruiserweight he would lose lean mass and (maybe) some bone density as well.

    LHW for Ruiz sounds extreme...
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He punches hard. And he's hurt most of the fighters he's faced. He just isn't a good finisher.

    Even against Joshua, it was more of a case of Joshua quitting than Ruiz KOing him.

    Some guys can hurt people, they just don't have the wherewithal to land the coup de grace.:cool:

    It's a skill.
     
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  9. Usernamehere

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    fat makes you stronger. I've met US level obsese people who can bench press a **** ton because they are just so big. It does translate into strength, when they're young.
     
  10. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I did answer it, “too fat and not enough cardio”. If was Andy was in better shape he could chase the KO more, now he just do the bare minimum.
     
  11. Usernamehere

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    I meant in terms of underachiever. Who the hell punches better than Ruiz as a technical boxer
     
  12. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Ruiz but he don’t have power.
     
  13. Usernamehere

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    watch the highlights reels. he stiffens them. But its still only 63%
     
  14. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It sounds extreme until you see someone over 3 inches taller then him make 154!
     
  15. Usernamehere

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    Ruiz absolutely hits better and harder than Joshua. Joshua hit carlos takam 5 million times to the head and then the ref just stopped it randomly.